The Hasbara – Israel vs Palestine – Is the UN really biased against Israel?

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How many times have you heard “The UN is biased against Israel” ?

Is the gas company biased for sending you a reminder when you haven’t paid your original bill? Of course it isn’t. It’s what you agreed to for being hooked up to the grid. Israel agreed to uphold International Law and the UN Charter in order to become a UN Member State.

Just one example of this so called “UN bias” is UNSC Resolution 252 which has SIX reminders, which only exist because Israel ignored the first.

The next step in the holey olde Hasbara is of course “Ah, but it’s a Chapter VI resolution. Chapter VI resolutions are not binding”.

CHAPTER VI: PACIFIC SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
Article 33
The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.
The Security Council shall, when it deems necessary, call upon the parties to settle their dispute by such means.

Does “shall” mean: “may”? “might”? “could”? “would”? “do you want to”? “would you like to”?

Or does it mean “will”? Remember, the Charter isn’t posing a question like; “Shall we dance?”. Nor are the Chapter VI resolutions, which more often than not “reaffirm” the relative laws. All law, by it’s very nature, is obligatory and;
All UN Member States are obliged to adhere to the Charter in its entirety.

The elephant in the room cannot see itself – Israel vs Palestine – The elephant acknowledges International Law

The elephant in the room cannot see itself. Israel vs Palestine
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The elephant acknowledges International Law ?

Haaretz – By Barak Ravid | 00:59 15.05.12 Israeli Foreign Ministry: International law allows deportation of South Sudan asylum seekers
International law poses no barrier to deporting all 700 South Sudanese who live in Israel, but the government should examine the situation of every South Sudanese asylum seeker to ascertain whether their lives would be at risk if they were sent back, the Foreign Ministry announced in an official brief this week.

Should apply to all equally. Let’s try …

Israeli Foreign Ministry: International law allows deportation of Palestine refugees.
International law poses no barrier to deporting all Palestinians who live in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, but the government should examine the situation of every Palestine refugee to ascertain whether their lives would be at risk if they were sent back, the Foreign Ministry announced in an official brief this week.

Would it result in 4 million or so refugees changing the demographics within Israel’s legally recognized Sovereign territory? The law and simple maths tells us it is only a threat to a Greater Israel.

The official Palestinian claim to RoR is under UNGA res 194, using this definition, written before UNRWA was formed and before Israel officially claimed territory “outside the State of Israel”.

The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation before 1967 – Israel vs Palestine

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The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation before 1967?

The following is not an unfounded accusation. It’s not from a propaganda site. They’re the official words of the Provisional Israeli Government of May 1948, as recorded by the UNSC. You decide.

On May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 the Provisional Government of Israel answered questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations.

Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

“In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.”

“international regulations” at the time say; Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
“Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.”

And again on 12 Aug 1948 the Provisional Israeli Government proclaimed Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

None of these areas have never been legally annexed to Israel.

Occupation can actually be dated from May 22nd 1948.

The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – photoshopping the evidence from Mavi Marmara

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The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – photoshopping the evidence from Mavi Marmara?

You decide

Original from Haaretz

Enlargement of the dagger. Notice the mashed thumb, the gap between the blade and handle and the perspective of the blade, which is not correct for the position of his hand or the handle.

Note the shape of the blade This pic is gamma corrected (lightened). Notice the shadows

A Jambiya does not have a gap between blade and handle

Here is the guy in question, with his ceremonial dagger

Here is his ceremonial dagger in the pile of ‘weapons’ found by the IDF

The only ‘weapon’ one would not normally find on a ship the size of the Mavi Mamara, is the ceremonial dagger. There are spare handles (shaped) for sledge hammers or fire axes, an assortment of cooking knives and a few pocket knives that every sailor carries. A screw driver? Other pics of weapons show iron bars etc. In fact, nothing unusual for an engineers’ workshop on a ship the size of the Mavi Mamara.

Notice the shape of the blade. Note especially – THERE IS NO GAP between blade and handle

He’s sitting. Why would and how could anyone attack the IDF while sitting? And why wasn’t he shot if he was attacking the IDF? And why are people standing in the background smiling, clapping?

The raid took place in the early morning at 4:30 IST.

This photo was taken during the day

Thanks to Denis O’Brien at _logo_phere

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Also see an analysis of the alleged Mavi Marmara broadcasts

UNSC Resolution 476 is in agreement with Iran. ” the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased”

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Is there any difference in the essence of the following two statements?

1) “Israel must end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem”

2) “The occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the pages of time”

Resolution 476 (1980) Adopted by the Security Council at its 2242nd meeting on 30 June 1980

The Security Council,

Having considered the letter of 28 May 1980 from the representative of Pakistan, the current Chairman of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, as contained in document S/13966 of 28 May 1980,

Reaffirming that acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible,

Bearing in mind the specific status of Jerusalem and, in particular, the need for protection and preservation of the unique spiritual and religious dimension of the Holy Places in the city,

Reaffirming its resolutions relevant to the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, in particular resolutions 252 (1968) of 21 May 1968, 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969, 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971 and 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980,

Recalling the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949 relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War,

Deploring the persistence of Israel, in changing the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure and the status of the Holy City of Jerusalem,

Gravely concerned over the legislative steps initiated in the Israeli Knesset with the aim of changing the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem,

1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

2. Strongly deplores the continued refusal of Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council and the General Assembly;

3. Reconfirms that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

4. Reiterates that all such measures which have altered the geographic, demographic and historical character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem are null and void and must be rescinded in compliance with the relevant resolutions of the Security Council;

5. Urgently calls on Israel, the occupying Power, to abide by this and previous Security Council resolutions and to desist forthwith from persisting in the policy and measures affecting the character and status of the Holy city of Jerusalem;

6. Reaffirms its determination in the event of non-compliance by Israel with this resolution, to examine practical ways and means in accordance with relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations to secure the full implementation of this resolution.

Not only does the UNSC agree with Iran that the Zionist/Israeli regime/Government illegally in Jerusalem must end, it also threatens action via Chapt VII. Iran merely predicted the Zionist regime in Jerusalem would be wiped from the pages of history. It didn’t threaten as the UNSC has, with “practical ways and means”.

Furthermore, UNSC Res 476 tells us Israeli actions “constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East”.

Meanwhile, Israel’s illegally acquired eggs are all in one basket. The precious US veto vote preventing a UNSC Chapt VII resolution giving the law its full effect through “practical ways and means”.

Israel has breached its position of trust as the Occupying Power

Make up your own mind who has the law on their side.

Who is this JohnBoy?

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Who is this JohnBoy? (scroll down to comments) ….

A poster from Sydney, quite up on the legal aspects of the I/P issue, I know that much. I’d like to meet and chin wag over a cup of coffee or maybe something stronger :-)

The Hasbara – The world’s most stupid propaganda – Israeli Palestine peace agreement and Palestinian Right of Return.

Such is the ‘logic’ of the Hasbara.
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Think about ….

Israel says there must be a peace agreement with Palestine before there can be consideration given to any RoR.

However under the most basic Right of Return required of any state, a) the country of return has right of final veto on individuals and; b) those accepted are all required to agree to live in peace. They would then become; c) Israeli citizens! d) They would not be citizens of the Palestine with whom Israel has the peace agreement!

BTW This is the definition of a refugee used in UNGA Res 194. Interesting reading! It included Jewish refugees BTW

Google Earth Overlay Israel Palestine, Google Earth Overlay of Israeli borders, Israel borders overlay for Google Earth, Map of Israel Google Earth

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It’s simple. Territory confirmed by the Government of Israel on the 22nd May 1948 as “outside of the state of Israel”, is not Israeli

Google Earth Overlay of Israel’s borders and; by default, what is not Israeli. Includes the UNGA text. Load the kmz file into Google Earth then use the properties in the left hand column to vary the transparency HELP

Israel did not define its borders in 1948 = a ghastly LIE! Israeli Government statement made on the 22nd May 1948 to the UNSC AFTER declaring, AFTER being recognized : “the above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard” “the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel” “sallies beyond the frontiers of the State“ “the above operations in areas outside the State of Israel“ “No area outside of Palestine is under Jewish occupation but sallies beyond the frontiers of the State of Israel have occasionally been carried out by Jewish forces for imperative military reasons, and as a part of an essentially defensive plan” The document shows us that: A) Israel did have borders, acknowledged by the Israeli Government in 1948 B) It acknowledges two separate entities. The State of Israel and Palestine (outside the territories of the State of Israel) C) It acknowledges that Israeli forces were operating in Palestinian territory, i.e., what remained of Palestine outside of Israel D) It acknowledges territories under Israeli military control. Which meant they were occupied according to the “international regulations” at the time, the Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III OTHER MAPS Large copy of the map used in Google Earth Other Maps relating to the Israeli Palestine conflict. Areas never legally annexed by Israel. Palestine pre – 1900 Maps from the Jewish National and University Library Map of Mark Twain’s journey Through predominantly arid regions, in the middle of summer. Includes quotations from Twain’s ‘Innocents Abroad’ and other authors pre-dating Twain

Israel has no fixed borders? On May 22 1948 Israel confirmed it’s borders in a letter to the UNSC. The Hasbara does not explain, it justifies the usurping of the Palestinians

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the actual Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then by default it is the territory of what remained of Palestine on May 15th 1948. Non-self Governing Territories fall under the protection of the UN Charter Chapt XI…
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How many times have you heard the notion that Israel has no borders with Palestine? According to the Provisional Israeli Government’s May 15th 1948 plea for recognition, the State of Israel was declared “within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947,”. Israel was immediately recognized as such by the US, Russia and; recognized as such by the majority of the International Community of Nations before being accepted into the UN and; the extent of Israel’s sovereignty was confirmed by the Israeli Government in a statement to the UNSC on 22nd May 1948, before Israel was accepted into the UN as declared and recognized, before the Armistice Agreements and; before Israel made the first claims to territories the Israeli Government stated (n 22nd May ’48) were “outside the territory of the State of Israel”.

On May 15th 1948 the extent of Israel’s Sovereign territories were clearly defined in the Israeli Government’s official plea for recognition to the President of the USA. May 15, 1948 Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

The US immediately recognized Israel as such. No more, no less. The British also recognized Israel as such and considered non-declared territories under Israel’s control by the time of British recognition, as occupied.

On May 22nd 1948 the extent of Israel’s Sovereign territories were clearly stated again in the Israeli Government’s Reply to the UNSC. May 22, 1948 The reply of the Provisional Government of Israel UNSC S/766 to the questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations on May 22.

“at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947. In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard [1]. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.”

The Israeli Govt goes on to use these phrases in the document: “the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel” — “outside the area of the State” — “beyond the frontiers of the State of Israel” Four instances where the Israeli Government, after having declared and been recognized, acknowledged limits to it’s territory. aka Borders, delineating the state of Israel from Palestine!

On 12 Aug 1948 an Israeli Government Proclamation says Jerusalem was “occupied”. Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948. [1]

[1] “international regulations” at the time say; Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
“Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised. “

On June 15, 1949, Israel’s position on its frontiers, statement to the Knesset by Foreign Minister Sharett. June 15, 1949 Israel-s position on its frontiers VOLUMES 1-2: 1947-1974
“As for the frontier between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan which is not included in Israel…”

On the 31st Aug 1949 Israel made it’s first official claim to territories beyond the extent of its sovereign frontiers. After accepting UNGA resolution without registering any reservations. After declaring Israel Independent of any other entity including Palestine, per the borders of UNGA Res 181 and; enshrining UNGA Resolution in the Declaration. After being recognized as asked & declared. After confirming what was “outside the territory of the State of Israel” to the UNSC and by proclamation declaring Jerusalem “Israeli-Occupied”. After being accepted into the UN, as recognized and based on the Israeli Government statements to the UNSC prior to the UNSC recommendation. Israel’s claim was rebuffed, citing the Armistice Agreements .

UN Charter Chapt XI DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES . Israeli Declaration “Israel…will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations“ May 14th 1948.

Under the UN charter, the acquisition of territory by war is inadmissible. The only manner in which territory can be acquired is by legal annexation. Israel has never legally annexed any territory

Consecutive Israeli Governments have been LYING to it’s own citizens and the world for 62 years.

Contrary to the opinions on why the British took so long to recognize Israel, the British waited until an Israeli Government was elected and waited until Israel was accepted into the UN as Declared and as recognized by the majority of Nations. The British also took into consideration the statements by the Israeli Government, granting de jure recognition of State and elected Government, with conditions.

ISRAEL (GOVERNMENT DECISION) HC Deb 27 April 1950 vol 474 cc1137-41 “His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid 1139 down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.”

Nothing has yet replaced them. Israel has never legally annexed any territory to the “frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″. It’s two attempts at annexation were condemned by UNSC Res 252 (+ 5 reminders) and UNSC Res 497, the Golan.

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These territories, “outside the territory of the State of Israel”, acquired by war, confirmed by the Israeli Government as occupied and never legally annexed to Israel, are quite simply not sovereign to Israel. As Professor Stephen M. Schwebel, after leaving office as a Judge of International Court of Justice, explains (citing Elihu Lauterpacht), a sovereign can ‘restore’ it’s own sovereign territory by war. It cannot ‘acquire’ territory by war.

Israel has never had to ‘restore’ any sovereign territory, it has never had any sovereign Israeli territory taken from it. In fact, failing to reach a peaceful settlement under Chapt VI of the UN Charter, Syria has a right to ‘restore’ the Golan by war. Likewise Egypt had the same right over the Sinai.

Detailed Partition Map.
Overlay for Google Earth with borders marked according to text of UNGA Res 181 (included)

Israel vs Palestine. Contrary to the Hasbara, Palestine has existed far longer than any Jewish kingdom or Jewish State. By denying the existence of Palestine and the Palestinian people, the longer history of Jewish existence in the region, as Palestinian Jews, is being denied.

It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then it’s a territory of Palestine
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Apart from being irrelevant to the legal status of non-self governing territories and recognized extent of Israeli Sovereignty, by denying the existence of Palestine and the Palestinian people, the Jewish population who lived in Palestine throughout the diaspora
are being denied the longer history of Jewish existence in the region. As Palestinian Jews.

Palestina moderna et Terra Sancta [1480?].

How many times have you heard “there were no such people as the Palestinians” or “No such country as Palestine”? To be correct, there was and still is no Independent Sovereign State of Palestine, nor for that matter was there an Independent Sovereign State. country or even a region called Israel until 1948. There was however Palestine. The maps on linked on the sides of this page aren’t maps drawn in the era of the Hasbara. They’re of the region, drawn in 1480 & 1655 of the region at the time. From the Jewish National and University Library no less. This was drawn in 1845 From the Zionism & Israel Information Center. Basic maths: Since the Roman era, i.e., about 2,000 of the 3,200 year history of the Jewish people, the region in all it’s forms and under a number rules, has been known as Palestine. During this 2,000 year period, longer than there ever was a Jewish Kingdom or a Jewish State, Jewish folk living in Palestine were, like Palestine’s other folk, Palestinians. After having areas declared independent of it, TransJordan 1946, Israel 1948, what remains is still Palestine. The name has not changed for over two thousand years In denying the existence of Palestine, the Jewish population who lived in Palestine throughout the diaspora are being denied their Jewish Palestinian history. Herzl, who during his life time could have bought land and lived anywhere in Palestine as a Palestinian Jew, didn’t. Those who stayed in Palestine did. Tens of thousands who migrated in the late 1800′s did. That right was taken away by the formation of a separate state, independent of Palestine. Now Israeli Jews (and Israel’s other citizens) are prohibited from settling any where in Palestine by the laws Israel swore to uphold. Even under it’s own Law of Entry 1948 and still current, Israeli citizens are prohibited from entering a hostile entity. Not to mention the GC’s, Laws of War, UN Charter and numerous UNSC resolutions. There is no logical reason for the notion that Palestine and the Palestinians did not exist except to justify the notion of a Greater Israel, at any cost. Even the history of the non-diaspora Palestinian Jews.

Totius Terrae Sanctae Delineatio [1655]

Contrary to the Hasbara twaddle Some very nice pics Photos of early Palestine Show thriving, well ordered rural communities. (thanks The Angry Arabs) From Michael: Chairman of the Permanent Mandates Commission in 1937: “For the Mandates Commission, Palestine had never ceased to constitute a separate entity. It was one of those territories which, under the terms of the Covenant, might be regarded as “provisionally independent”. The country was administered under an A mandate by the United Kingdom, subject to certain conditions and particularly to the condition appearing in Article 5: “The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be . . . in any way placed under the control of the Government of any foreign Power”. [...] Palestine, as the mandate clearly showed, was a subject under international law. While she could not conclude international conventions, the mandatory Power, until further notice, concluded them on her behalf, in virtue of Article 19 of the mandate. The mandate, in Article 7, obliged the Mandatory to enact a nationality law, which again showed that the Palestinians formed a nation, and that Palestine was a State, though provisionally under guardianship. It was, moreover, unnecessary to labour the point; there was no doubt whatever that Palestine was a separate political entity.” DocumentLink http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/FD05535118AEF0DE052565ED0065DDF7 BTW read Peres’ ‘making deserts bloom’ at the UN 2010

The Map from the Peace Treaty of Versailles Showing Palestine (original appears to be a microfilm negative) Here for a clear positive image

MORE – Palestine. A country, a state? Mandate period treaty documents between Palestine and Great Britain, Ireland, Iraq, Syria, TransJordan, Turkey, Egypt seem to confirm that it was.

What will happen if the Palestinians Declare Sovereign Independence by the ’67 armistice lines?

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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A declaration of Sovereign Independence according to the Armistice lines of ’67 by the Palestinians makes for a really interesting situation… FACT : Palestine’s name has not changed since Roman era. Under the Ottoman rule, the region was called Palestine. Under the Mandate, the region was called Palestine. Jordan was declared Independent of Palestine in 1946. What remained was still called Palestine. Israel was declared Independent of Palestine in 1948. . What remained was still called Palestine. FACT : Palestine today is comprised by default, of the territories outside of and bound by the actual Internationally recognized extent of Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian, Egyptian & Israeli sovereignty. The actual legal status of Palestine has not changed since Israel was declared independent of Palestine on May 14th 1948 FACT : Jerusalem was never instituted as a corpus separatum by the UN. It was not a part of Israel’s declared sovereignty. Jerusalem’s status has never legally changed from being a part of Palestine for over 2,000 years. Far longer than the entire existence of the Jewish Kingdom. FACT : The territories Israel illegally acquired by war by 1950 and never legally annexed, are still legally a part of Palestine.. (about 33% of the territory Israel claims as it’s own). Israel has never legally annexed any territories. It is inadmissible to ‘acquire’ territory by war. Territory can only be ‘acquired’ by legal annexation FACT : No actual borders were changed in ’67. Armistice lines are not borders unless they follow the borders existing before the armistice or unless “territories occupied” are legally annexed during the period of the armistice. FACT : A Declaration of Sovereign Independence only comes into effect when the territories declared are completely free of occupation. (example ..“The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time” After the British occupation/Mandate ended.) In order to come into effect, Israel would have to withdraw from all of the territories declared by Palestine. FACT : A Palestinian declaration according to the ’67 armistice lines, will not change the extent of Israel’s actual Internationally recognized declared sovereignty. By declaring Sovereign Independence according to the ’67 armistice lines, territories not declared as sovereign by the Palestinians and not declared as sovereign or legally annexed to Israel, will remain a part of Palestine until their status is legally changed. Israel will finally have to either legally annex them, (legal annexation requires an agreement) OR occupy them. As the Occupying Power, Israel would then be duty bound to PROTECT THEM until they in turn have the ability to become independent. However, as an Independent Sovereign State, Palestine would also be Regional Power. As such it would also have the same right to legally annex or occupy the same territories. Conundrum : If the Palestinians declare themselves independent by the boundaries of the ’67 armistice and call their state Palestine, what will the remaining, tiny, entity be called? If it erupts in civil war. Which Regional Power would take over. It could ask to be annexed by one of the Regional Powers as a trustee, as the Palestinians requested of TransJordan in 1950. But which Regional Power would it trust? One who has for 62 years usurped the Palestinians, denying them RoR, razing their homes, villages, farms? Or the party who would sacrifice some 50% of it’s rightful territories, in order that there be peace, helping Israel extract itself from the illegal, facts on the ground, black hole it has dug for itself and it’s illegally settling citizens? If neither Israel or Palestine annex, hundreds of thousands of people living in the remaining, tiny, entity, many of whom are currently Israeli citizens, will be stateless AND possibly without a name. If Israel does annex, it must be by agreement (with the remaining, tiny entity) and it would show the world that these territories were not actually a part of Israel at all. I.e., it has been bullsh*tting for 62 years. (Not that Israel ever seems to care about being shown as deceitful, as long as it has land). Palestine would have just as much right as Israel to annex, by agreement (with the remaining, tiny entity). Would Israel go ballistic? Kick the sh*te out of ye olde china shoppe? Ask yourself….. Who will stop them? The US, mightiest nation on earth, can’t even stop the illegal settlements!

The recognition of Israel. De jure? De facto? The Jewish State?

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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There is no legal basis in the demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel or Israel as the Jewish State. No other country in the world gave recognition to Israel as the “Jewish State” . They recognized Israel as the “State of Israel” as per the Declaration for the Establishment of “the State of Israel”

de jure and de facto recognition are recognitions of the legal status of States and/or Governments. Governments administer the State. Governments can change.

It is not within the mandate of the UN to recognize states. Already recognized states are admitted to the UN after they have been recommended by the UNSC, they must have been recognized as states before they can be recommended by the UNSC. More states have recognized Palestinian statehood today than the number recognizing Israel when it was admitted to the UN.

Recognition of statehood is not mandatory. ” ..in the view of the United States, International Law does not require a state to recognize another state; it is a matter for the judgment of each state whether an entity merits recognition as a state. In reaching this judgment, the United States has traditionally looked for the establishment of certain facts. The United States has also taken into account whether the entity in question has attracted the recognition of the International community of states.” There are numerous UN Member states who do not recognize other UN Member States.

What is required of states is the respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force. This is reflected in UNSC res 242

Territories:
Sovereign Territories belong to Independent Sovereign States, regardless of which Government is in power. A sovereign has complete control over all it’s territories and what happens within them, regardless of which Government is in power.

Non-Sovereign States, States and non-state entities also have territories. They are not there just for the taking.
A state entity might have full control of it’s territories and still not declare itself an independent sovereignty.
A state might also only partially control it’s territories, in which case, it cannot declare independent sovereignty.

( See why Palestine has never declared itself an independent sovereignty)
The difference between state and non-state is: a state has declared itself to be a state. There is no obligation for any entity to declare either statehood or independent sovereignty. It is a matter of self determination. Unilateral by nature. Independence means not being under the control of any other entity, person or power.

‘real estate’ is not ‘territory’. Real estate is bought and sold by private individuals, businesses, corporations, institutions. ‘Territory’ is the stuff of States and entities. ‘Real estate’ is irrelevant to the status of the ownership of the ‘territories’ of states/non-states/sovereign-states, entities. A person who rents or even a landless bum, living under a bridge, is an equal part of a state or entity. Territories of an entity belong to all the citizens of the entity.

We must also distinguish between the type of Government of an entity (permanent) and political parties elected to lead a Government,(temporary).

Recognition:
For there to be International recognition of an independent sovereign State, the boundaries of the sovereign state must be defined in order to know exactly the extent of the territory being claimed as sovereign. Israel’s boundaries were defined when the Jewish People’s Council accepted and declared sovereignty over the boundaries recommended in UNGA res 181, in order to be recognized as a Sovereign State. The Israeli Government confirmed it’s declared boundaries in statements to the UNSC on May 22nd 1948 and June 15th 1949

UNGA res 181:
The resolution set out conditions under which either party could declare independent sovereignty, if they wished. No one can demand an entity declare independence. It did not require the two parties to co-sign. This would have been against the notions of self determination. On the 14th of May 1948 the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel to the International Community of Nations.

Although UNGA Res 181 was a non-binding resolution, it reminded parties of conditions regarding the declaring of a Sovereign Independent that are binding. A Declaration of Sovereignty IS binding. It is a statement to the International Community of Nations, signifying the intention of the party declaring. Israel implemented it’s part of UNGA resolution 181. UNGA Res 181 is STILL enshrined in the Declaration of a Jewish State.
The UN did not implement the corpus separatum, Jerusalem remained a part of Palestine

The Arab League refused to recognize UNGA Res 181 on legal grounds. Not because of hatred towards Jews.

The Palestinians COULD NOT declare, because Jewish forces, under Plan Dalet, were already in control of territories slated for the new Arab State by the time the British Mandate ended.
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//Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel… ” I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.//

Based on this information, the majority of the International Community of States recognized Israel, over riding the Arab League’s objections. (International democracy at work, Israel exists as a Sovereign State, independent of the remainder of Palestine)

Recognition – de facto or de jure?: (de facto – facts on the ground) – (de jure – in law).
A State must exist before a State Government can be instituted. The territories must be defined in order for other Nations to know the extent of the Sovereignty being declared and the declaring entity must have full control over those territories. (Independence)

The territories of the Sovereign State of Israel were recognized by the USA and Russia within days, as de jure by default, through the de facto recognition given to the A) authority of the Provisional Government over those territories declared. B) later the US, through the de jure recognition of the Government of Israel set up under the authority of the Provisional Government to govern, within the declared sovereign territories.

The British did likewise but included a caveat, not recognizing any territories acquired by war by 1949 as sovereign to Israel. I.e., de jure recognition within the declared sovereign territories.

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Three examples of this recognition :
The US granted the Provisional Government de facto recognition to administer the Sovereign Territories of the State of Israel, based on the information supplied by the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel, (by the boundaries in UNGA res 181), until such time as a permanent institutions of Government were set up. It then granted de jure recognition. This was marked when the first political party was elected to Government.

The USSR granted de jure recognition of the de facto (provisional) Government’s authority to administer the Sovereign Territories of the State of Israel and to set up a Government. To the best of my knowledge, the USSR has never actually given de jure recognition. Although having given de jure recognition to the ‘authority’ of the Provisional Government, it would naturally follow by default.

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The British waited until a political party was elected to the Government. The British then granted de jure recognition, with conditions. The territories Israel had acquired by war, outside of it’s declared Sovereign Boundaries, were considered to be ‘occupied’. I.e., NOT Israeli Sovereign territory.

His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid 1139 down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.

Israel has never legally annexed any territory. Unilateral annexation is not legal. It must be under a treaty or agreement. “territories occupied” and never withdrawn from or legally annexed, are still ‘occupied’.

Thinking of buying land or an apartment in Israel? Buyers beware. The Israeli Land Fund engages in illegal activities, deceit, propaganda

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” and declared Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
it’s a territory of Palestine…

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NOTHING on Israeli Land Fund History of Struggle page gives Israel any LEGAL right to sell land in “territories occupied” or anywhere outside of Israel’s actual Sovereign boundaries. Buying this land or any Israeli civilian structure/apartment from the Israeli Land Fund , in the knowledge that the territory is NOT Israeli under International Law, is to be complicit in a crime. Investing in the construction of Israeli civilian infrastructure, development or dwellings in “territories occupied” or outside of Israel’s Sovereign territories, is to be complicit in a crime.

The Israeli Land Fund is LYING: “The State of Israel today was built on land which was legally purchased by Jewish organizations such as the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and other private individuals.”

A) Private, corporate and institutionally owned land is NOT ‘territory’. It’s REAL ESTATE! B) Furthermore, only a tiny percentage of the ‘territory’ eventually allocated to and accepted on behalf of Israel under UNGA Res 181, was ever bought (as real estate). Israel received the ‘territory’ for the homeland state COMPLETELY FREE. GRATIS. NO CHARGE. It was declared a Sovereign state and recognized as such by the majority of the International Community of States, based on the information provided them by the Provisional Government of Israel May 14th 1948, over riding the Arab State’s legal objections. Sovereign States MUST have declared and defined boundaries in order that other states know where Sovereignty begins and ends. Israel’s Sovereign Boundaries were declared May 14th 1948. No more, no less.

Furthermore it is illegal to ‘acquire’ territory by either defensive or aggressive war. Territory must be legally annexed, i.e., by a bilateral agreement, even if ‘acquired’ in a defensive war. ‘acquisition’ of territory is different from “restoring the lawful sovereign”.

Israel’s wars: A preemptive war is started by the preemptor. The UNSC does not recognize a preemptive war as defensive. It is why Israel has never asked for UN/UNSC assistance in it’s wars. It would not have been forthcoming. When Israel says “we were alone”, it is because Israel preempted (started) war. Under the preemptive Plan Dalet, launched in the weeks preceding Israeli declaration, Jewish forces were OUTSIDE of Israel’s declared territories at the time they were being declared. What was a civil war pre-declaration, became a war waged by a Sovereign State, against what remained of Palestine the moment Israel declared it’s Sovereign territories and adopted the Jewish forces OUTSIDE of those declared territories.

Under the UN Charter, the Arab States, as Regional Powers, had a right to attempt to expel foreign forces from the territories of Palestine. The Arab States’ Declaration on the Invasion of Palestine was accepted as valid by the UNSC . There are no UNSC resolutions condemning the Arab States for starting any war with Israel OR for invading Sovereign Israeli territory. Israel’s wars have all been fought almost exclusively in the territories of Palestine or the neighbouring states . There are no UNSC Resolutions calling for a cessation of hostilities IN Israel.

Stephen M. Schwebel – Judge of International Court of Justice The state of the law has been correctly summarized by Elihu Lauterpacht

territorial change cannot properly take place as a result of the unlawful use of force. But to omit the word “unlawful” is to change the substantive content of the rule and to turn an important safeguard of legal principle into an aggressor’s charter. For if force can never be used to effect lawful territory change, then, if territory has once changed hands as a result of the unlawful use of force, the illegitimacy of the position thus established is sterilized by the prohibition upon the use of force to restore the lawful sovereign.

In the Yom Kippur war, Syria had a right to attempt to restore it’s Sovereign territory, the Golan.

Shabtai Rosen - Professor of international law at Bar Ilan University “(a) Shortly after the signing of the Israel-Egyptian agreement, early in March. 1949, Israeli forces advanced south to the littoral into the area allocated to the Jewish State: in General Assembly resolution l8l (II) of 29 November 1947“

If it was not sovereign to Israel in 1948, not recognized by any member of the International Community of Nations and has never been legally annexed to Israel, it is, quite simply, NOT Israeli territory. It is not Israel’s to sell, lease or dispose of in any manner what so ever. It is ILLEGAL under International Law. People who break International Law are not going to care about you or your investment. You are serving the purpose of achieving a Greater Israel, illegally. Should International Law ever be enforced, by the withdrawal of the US UNSC veto vote, Israel could find itself forced to withdraw to it’s actual sovereign territory, leaving you and your investment in Palestine.

By all means invest in Israel. Just make sure it is IN Israel.

Could a peace agreement lead to an Israeli civil war? What are the implications were it to happen?

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948 respectively. Neither are a part of Palestine, nor is it a part of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel

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Could a peace agreement lead to an Israeli civil war? Inconceivable?

1) Consider the number of lawlessness illegal settlers who will very likely object to any peace agreement especially if they’re faced with either becoming Palestinian citizens or being re-settled in what might become or what is already actual sovereign Israeli territory.

2) Hundreds of thousands of Israelis, Jewish and non-Jewish, live in complete ignorance of the fact that they OUTSIDE of Israel’s actual sovereign territory.

Israel has never legally annexed any territories to it’s declared sovereign boundaries. It’s declared sovereign boundaries are those it accepted under UNGA Res 181 – the basis of Israel’s recognition by the majority of the International Community of Nations (democratically over riding the Arab states legal objections) : Letter from the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, May 15, 1948 “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.” Also available as PDF from the Truman Library

Quite a vast section of Israel’s citizenry are simply not living in Israel. But for the sake of this article, let’s just consider the illegal settlers in “territories occupied” since 1967. These are not just small outposts set up by hardliners. They’re vast housing estates, whole townships. Israeli citizens in illegally annexed East Jerusalem are also illegal settlers.

Again, for the sake of this article, let’s for the moment consider were a civil war to break out. It would for the most part, likely be fought in areas outside of Israel’s sovereignty. Under the UN Charter events outside of the sovereign territory of states are of concern to A) Other Regional Powers, the Arab States. B) The UN/UNSC.

Under the UN Charter, which Israel voluntarily agreed to, the UN/UNSC and Regional Powers have a RIGHT to intervene when UN Member States act outside of their acknowledged sovereign territories. An Israeli civil war in “territories occupied” would be OUTSIDE of Israel’s sovereignty.

Is Israel actually a democratic state? Read the Declaration for the Establishment of the State of Israel. The words ‘democratic’ and ‘democracy’ simply do not appear.

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948. Neither are a part of Palestine, nor is Palestine a part of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel

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How many times have you heard “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East” ?

HERE for the Full Text of The Declaration for the Establishment of the State of Israel.

Partial text

“WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948,”

An Israeli Government has never been elected in accordance with A) the Declaration B) in accordance with the Constitution. An Israeli constitution has yet to be written. It was a legal condition accepted by the Jewish People’s Council for declaring Independent statehood.

It is arguable that no Israeli law has ever been passed by a legally elected Israeli Government. The Provisional Government was not elected, was not put in place by a referendum, nor was the Zionist Federation or any other body representing the world’s Jewish population towards the formation of the State of Israel.

“THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel;”

The prophets of Israel are a religious notion = theocratic. shades of Deuteronomy 20:15 perhaps?

“it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex;”

Depending on who those inhabitants might be, based on the prior ‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’

” it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions;”

‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’

” and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.”

‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’?

Israel was not a democracy for the first 8 months as an Independent Sovereign State. There was no elected Israeli Government between May 15th 1948 and the first Israeli election on 25 January 1949. No laws during this period were passed by a democratic Government.

62 years later, we see:
Not able to reconcile the two notions Democratic and Jewish State, successive Israeli Governments are still acting without a constitution.
Still usurping the Palestinians
Denying the Bedouin their nomadic culture
Ignoring the Geneva Conventions
Ignoring the Israeli High Court
Ignoring the UN Charter
Ignoring hundreds of UNSC Resolutions
Illegally ‘acquiring’ territory not sovereign to Israel
Illegally annexing “territories occupied”
Illegally instituting Israeli Civil Law in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950 and never legally annexed to Israel
Illegally building Israeli civilian infrastructure in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950
Illegally building AND illegally selling dwellings to Israeli citizens illegally in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950

Haaretz – [[ Rabbi Yosef, who has been known to make controversial comments in the past, cited rulings based on the Book of Deuteronomy related to the Jewish people's inheritance of the land, the presence of other peoples on the land, and that the Jews should not make a covenant with them "nor show mercy unto them."
According to Yosef, this has been understood to mean barring the sale of land to non-Jews, based on an interpretation by Rabbi Yosef Caro, the 16th-century author of the codification of Jewish law, the Shulhan Arukh. ]]

The International community, the UN, the UNSC has only ever asked that Israel adhere to it’s voluntary obligations under the law. The same laws guarantee Israel the right to defend itself from all comers. They do not require Israel to relinquish ANY sovereign territory.

However, Israel seems to operate under the assumption it’s only answerable to a higher power, perhaps that of the prophets of Israel?

The Palestinians have only asked that Israel recognize their rights, which are no more or less than the rights of every human granted under the UN Charter and International Humanitarian Law.

Have Israelis actually voted for policies resulting in the above? Or have they been duped into the current situation? At the time of writing this, two of the most pertinent documents relating to Israel’s actual recognized Sovereign territories are nowhere to be seen on the Israeli Govt web site. Ignorance is bliss?

Interesting essay by Amnon Rubinstein. Professor of law at the Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya and an Israel Prize laureate. (note the title though “The Curious Case of Jewish Democracy”)

Discussion on reddit

Iran Nuclear Weapons Israeli Propaganda 101

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It stares us in the face, but some folk’d rather the propaganda …

A country wanting nukies does not sign an NPT and/or if it has signed an NPT it can legally leave the treaty, (there is a proviso) and then acquire nukes, legally AND still be a member of the IAEA!

Let’s take Israel as an example. Few people realize that Israel itself is an IAEA member state. It does not fully support the IAEA by signing an NPT, yet it receives technological assistance for Nuclear research for peaceful purposes and it legally has nukies. Likewise India and Pakistan! Both IAEA members. Both receiving technological assistance for peaceful purposes, both with nukies. Like Israel.

The Iranians have signed an NPT (they’re all slightly different) and claim their nuclear technology is for peaceful purposes, to supplant oil based fuel needs for power generation, medical research etc. Thus far, there is no actual evidence to suggest otherwise. There are only un-proven accusations. Accusations are not evidence.

Very frequently we’re treated to mind blowing revelations like … Iran installing new centrifuges … However, in 2005 we knew there were to be some 50,000 centrifuges in the main hall of the Natanz complex. That is what the hall is designed to hold. The IEAE helped design the facility thus.

Or … secret Iranian nuclear facility revealed … However, under the IAEA agreements it is only when nuclear materials are to be introduced that Iran has to reveal facilities. In each case, they have notified the IAEA according to their agreements. In each case prior to the amazing revelations popped out by the propagandistas. We can after all, read what is reported by the IAEA itself. We don’t have to rely on bullsh*te propagated by news services with their truncated, half quoted, statements, by nameless officials and discredited ‘weapons inspectors’ who never were.

Israel is making threats to attack Iran based on unconfirmed accusations. Why? Think about it. Israel cannot even stop home made rockets from Gaza even with its billions of dollars of military aid from the US. Israel didn’t achieve one of its stated objectives in Lebanon. All it did was destroy billions of dollars of civilian infrastructure many miles away from the border combat zone in a war between Israel and the official Lebanese resistance movement. (It was not a war between the state of Lebanon and the state of Israel).

What makes Israel think it can effectively attack Iran? Fact is, unless it decides to use nuclear armed ballistic missiles, it can’t. Its planes must pass through the airspace of hostile territories, refueling mid air to get there and on the return journey. Knowing full well the majority of the international community do not want another war, Israel is bluffing … perhaps something like this:

If the US maintains its veto vote in the UNSC against Israel’s illegal activities in Palestine and turns a blind eye to territory illegally acquired by war, illegal annexation, illegal settlements and if the US demands that the Palestinians enter negotiations with Israel, Israel will not attack Iran. Not that it can effectively without the US becoming involved or by using ballistic missiles and then the US will become involved. But even using nuclear ballistic missiles Israel cannot possibly contain the surrounding states who will go ballistic in return.

But wait!! Israel is wanting bunk buster bombs from the US. Why, if it has nuclear armed ballistic missiles? Or does it? And does it actually have the aircraft to deliver huge bunk busters all the way to Iran?

Maybe it’s not really about Iran at all. Perhaps it’s about Palestine and achieving a Greater Israel, unfettered by the law. Ask yourself, why does Israel demand negotiations with the Palestinians?

Reaching an agreement between two parties can circumvent the Law. Israel does not have the law on its side, it only has the precious US veto vote in the UNSC. The Palestinians do have the law on their side.

Were Israel be made to face the law, the Palestinians should be compensated for some 1/3rd of the territory Israel claims as its own, acquired by war and never legally annexed to Israel. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis live OUTSIDE of Israel’s actual sovereign territory. Such a compensation claim would bankrupt Israel for decades to come.

Should the territory be returned to the Palestinians, there are hundreds of thousands of Israelis who’d either need to leave or become Palestinian citizens. In all likelihood an Israeli civil war would ensue as the state of Israel attempted to transfer them back to Israeli territory. It would however, be an Israeli civil war fought OUTSIDE of Israel. Under the UN Charter, an Israeli civil war outside of the Sovereign territory of Israel would allow the neighbouring powers to intervene.

However, the Palestinians have already stated they are willing to go by the ’67 Armistice Demarcation lines (what Israel likes to call borders), generously conceding some 50% of their rightful territory to Israel for the sake of peace. It is in fact Israel who MUST negotiate. It cannot bluff forever with its grubby little hand in the cookie jar.

The only real alternative to the US veto vote in the UNSC is for Israel to use its nukes, then all hell will break loose. This is what the majority of the International community really fears. Israeli leaders might just be that insane. So they pussy foot around the little rogue state, cringing in fear of what Israel just might do.

What can be done to stop Israel from perpetuating its crimes against the Palestinians? Were the US to withdraw the favour of its veto vote in the UNSC, there’d be a chance. But what on earth would make the US do that? Both China and Russia trade with Iran. Both China and Russia have opposed sanctions on Iran. Ever thought what might happen were China to threaten to stop its banks from trading with the US …

Netanyahu’s speech at the General Assembly 23rd September 2011. WOW! Listen to the applause

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Netanyahu
Welcoming Applause – Moderate – about 30 seconds
Applause after Speech – About 9 seconds of tepid applause
Er….wow….impressive…

Abbas
Welcoming Applause – Rousing – about 50 + seconds
Applause after Speech – Over a minute
That’s CHUNKY!!!

It doesn’t even fit on the page!!!!

ShortLink http://wp.me/pDB7k-TM#abw Map shows in red, the territory > > > > > > > the Palestinians are willing to sacrifice for peace > > > Israel is still taking Palestinian territory Sacrificing nothing for peace Making no concessions of any kind The Palestinians have taken nothing of Israel’s What law gives any country a right to more “defensible borders” than its neighbour? The phrase ‘defensible borders’ does not appear in any Law, Convention, the UN Charter UNGA or UNSC Resolution! None of the territory Israel has acquired by war has ever been legally annexed to Israel. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been unwittingly living outside of Israel for 60 years nor more, bolstered by a web of lies and deceit, protected only by the US veto vote in the UNSC

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Palestine. A country, a state? Mandate period treaty documents between Palestine and Great Britain, Ireland, Iraq, Syria, TransJordan, Turkey, Egypt seem to confirm that it was.

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, it’s a territory of Palestine…

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League of Nations Mandate for Palestine:
The Council of the League of Nations “Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; “
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace%20Process/Guide%20to%20the%20Peace%20Process/The%20Mandate%20for%20Palestine

League of Nations Convenant: Article 22. Part I. (4th paragraph)
“Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.”
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

League of Nations 30 November 1937 C.495.M.336.1937.VI. Geneva, November 30th, 1937

Chapter X. – Conclusion
” It means that the Arabs must acquiesce in the exclusion from their sovereignty of a piece of territory, long occupied and once ruled by them.”

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Additional research from Michael

Prior to the Mandate – Great Britain, Ireland and Palestine:
“Article 2. The Money Order Service between the contracting countries shall be performed exclusively by the agency of Offices of Exchange.
Article 7. Duplicate Orders shall be issued only by the Postal Administration of the country of payment and in conformity with the regulations established or to be established in that country.
Article 8. When it is desired that an error in the name of the payee shall be corrected, or that the amount of a Money Order shall be repaid to the remitter, application must be made by the remitter to the Chief Office of the country in which the Order was issued.
Article 9. Repayment of an Order shall not, in any case, be made until it has been ascertained, through the Chief Office of the country where such Order is payable, that the Order has not been paid and that the said Office authorizes the repayment.
Article 10. Orders shall remain payable in each country for twelve months after the expiration of the month of issue ; and the amounts of all Money Orders not paid within that period shall revert to and remain the property of the Administration of the country of issue.”
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/20/20/00038953.pdf

Iraq, Syria, TransJordan, Turkey and Palestine:
“Article I. The High Contracting Parties undertake to créât and maintain an ” International Office
for Information regarding Locusts “. Its seat shall be at Damascus, and its expenses shall be defrayed by the Contracting Parties in equal shares.
Article II. The Office shall operate under the authority and control of a Committee composed of delegates of the Contracting States.
Article III. The expenses of setting up the office and the annual expenses of running it shall be supported by the Contracting States according to the conditions laid down by the Organic Statute mentioned in Article II.
Article IV. The contributions of each of the Contracting States shall be paid in through the intermediary of the High Commissariat of the French Republic in the States of Syria to the Bank of Syria and Lebanon at Damascus, whence the money shall be withdrawn, as need arises, on the order of the Director of the Office. Each of the Contracting States shall make its first annual payment within three months from the date when this Agreement is approved by their respective Governments.”
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/17/1/00032024.pdf

International Commerce Agreement with Egypt and Palestine:
“The Egyptian Government therefore agrees, on the basis of complete reciprocity, to grant most-favoured-nation treatment to products of the soil and of industry originating in Palestine and imported into Egyptian territory for consumption, re-exportation or transit.”
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/60001_120000/16/8/00030366.pdf

Israel and the United States share the same values. Or do they… Marriage laws

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Make up your own mind….
Marriage In Israel

There’s no mention of Muslims BTW

Israel vs Palestine. The fallacy of defensible borders. UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
it’s a territory of Palestine…

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UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’

LOGIC: No matter how much of other folk’s territory an entity acquires for ‘defensible’ borders, it will still be next to the people whose territory it is acquiring.

QUESTION: Why has one entity in any region the right to have more ‘defensible’ borders than any other entity in the region?

Fact is, it hasn’t. UN Charter Article 2
“The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.”

If Palestine is recognized by a 2/3rds majority of UN Member States, game over for Deuteronomy 20:15. Game over for being an Occupying Power over what will legally be recognized as a “Regional Power”. There is no requirement that they be powerful, nor do they have to be a UN Member State.

Of course defensible borders are a military advantage, however, the Jewish People’s Council accepted and declared boundaries “within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″, which did not include territories already under the control of Jewish forces at the time of declaration.

They did not include the territories Israel confirmed were not it’s own on May 22 1948

They did not include the territories Israel attempted to claim on 31st August 1949

They did not include the territories Israel has ‘acquired’ by war, or illegal annexation, or illegal settlement, since declaration. None of which has been legally annexed.

QUESTION: If the territory is genuinely acquired for military purposes, aka, defense, why is it being populated with …. ahem….Israeli civilians?

The Laws of War and GC’s are there to protect ALL civilians, especially NOT having the Occupying Power’s civilians in occupied territories for the simple reason that the occupied have a right to armed resistance in which the Occupying Power’s civilians might become collateral statistics The Occupying Power has a duty to it’s civilians to ensure they are NOT in territories acquired by war, in order to safeguard them. Israel in fact endangers it’s citizens by encouraging and assisting them to settle in occupied territories!

QUESTION In order for an entity to defend it’s civilians illegally in illegally ‘acquired’ territories, from those whose territories it has illegally acquired, is it logical for Israel to further incur their wrath by attempting to acquire even more of their territory to protect the territory you have already illegally ‘acquired’?

The answer is of course, no. Consecutive Israeli Governments have been more than irresponsible, they have been incredibly … STUPID!!

WikiLeaks. An uninformed democracy can only vote in ignorance

From www.globalresearch.ca
The Internal Organizational Structure of Wikileaks: Record of Wikileaks Email Exchanges

To:
From:
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 20:42:37 +1100
This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to ‘WL’. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.
Dear Mr. Ellsberg.
We have followed with interest and delight your recent statements on
document leaking.
We have come to the conclusion that fomenting a world wide movement of
mass leaking is the most cost effective political intervention
available to us* We believe that injustice is answered by good
governance and for there to be good governance there must be open
governance. Governance by stealth is governance by conspiracy and
fear. Fear, because without it, secrecy does not last for long.
Retired generals and diplomats are vociferous, but those in active
service hold their tune.
Lord Action said, “Everything secret degenerates, even the
administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it
can bear discussion and publicity”.
This degeneration comes about because when injustice is concealed,
including plans for future injustice, it cannot be addressed. When
governance is closed, man’s eyes become cataracts. When governance is
open, man can see and so act to move the world towards a more just
state

Need one say more?

A semi-literate Brian Whitaker writing for the Guardian?

Literacy skills are a pre-requisite for journalism. At the very least an ability to apply the very basic English rules of grammar to the English language.

Brian Whitaker

It is now more than three years since Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made his famous claim during a visit to New York: “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like you do in your country. This does not exist in our country.”

His words caused laughter among the audience at Columbia University…

Perhaps it was a sudden plague of deafness amongst the audience or their Manglish, caused the laughter.

Much the same is demonstrated by Snr Whitaker’s A) reiterating verbatim what was conveyed by by one Dr.Banafsheh Keynoush whose translation skills are impeccable “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like you do in your country. This does not exist in our country.”

B) then his failure to understand what was said and instead and interpreting it thus “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like you do in your country. They do not exist in our country.”

Does a person mean ‘they’ when they say ‘this’? In the USA there is open homosexuality, this phenomenon does not exist in Iran.

Whitaker then goes on about Iran’s laws against homosexual behaviour. Put simply, one doesn’t have road rules if there are no roads.

Mark Twain and Palestine. Have you ever actually read Innocents Abroad? The Israeli narrative only mentions a couple of lines. Why would that be?

It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948.

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Like “we made the desert bloom” or “Israel is the only democracy in the M East”
Mark Twain’s description of Palestine is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO THE LEGAL STATUS OF TERRITORIES and the rights and duties of Statehood. It’s a non-argument. Not even straw, it’s chaff dust at best.

The argument that Jews made the dessert bloom, is not a valid argument for Israel’s ongoing intransigence. Why it is brought into the equation is completely irrelevant to International Law. Never the less, let’s have a look at what the Hasbara fails to mention from Twain. Twain was recovering from cholera during his journey through Palestine, IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER… begins here … for the most part the route he took to Jerusalem, was through barren areas. E.g., Damascus to the Sea of Galilee. Nablus to Jerusalem. Look at Google Earth even today. The dead sea, today. These are the areas Twain is quoted for! IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER. You will not find the following cited by apologists for a Greater Israel. “The narrow canon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side” “Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding” “We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried” “Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far-reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side”

“Every where about the Mosque of Omar are portions of pillars, curiously wrought altars, and fragments of elegantly carved marble–precious remains of Solomon’s Temple. These have been dug from all depths in the soil and rubbish of Mount Moriah, and the Moslems have always shown a disposition to preserve them with the utmost care. At that portion of the ancient wall of Solomon’s Temple which is called the Jew’s Place of Wailing, and where the Hebrews assemble every Friday to kiss the venerated stones and weep over the fallen greatness of Zion, any one can see a part of the unquestioned and undisputed Temple of Solomon, the same consisting of three or four stones lying one upon the other, each of which is about twice as long as a seven-octave piano, and about as thick as such a piano is high. But, as I have remarked before, it is only a year or two ago that the ancient edict prohibiting Christian rubbish like ourselves to enter the Mosque of Omar and see the costly marbles that once adorned the inner Temple was annulled. The designs wrought upon these fragments are all quaint and peculiar, and so the charm of novelty is added to the deep interest they naturally inspire. One meets with these venerable scraps at every turn, especially in the neighboring Mosque el Aksa, into whose inner walls a very large number of them are carefully built for preservation“

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Bayard Taylor who wrote of the Jezreel Valley in 1852 “one of the richest districts in the world”

Laurence Oliphant 1887, again of the Valley of Jezreel “…was ‘a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive’ “

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It’s rather obvious from reading Innocents abroad, Mark Twain did not visit the most fertile areas of Palestine.

Pushing the Hasbarrow for Israel. US military aid helps Israel usurp the Palestinians. End the Israeli occupation of Palestine.

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the actual Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then by default it is the territory of what remained of Palestine on May 15th 1948.
Non-self Governing Territories fall under the protection of the UN Charter Chapt XI…

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The Hasbarrow Inc

End the Israeli occupation of Palestine

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“We were poor and happy. The sort of happiness felt when a person as is turning desert into garden.” Peres worked in two kibbutz – Kibbutz Alumot, which was in desert. In his time it was a failure. It didn’t blossom in the desert. The other, Geva in the Jezreel Valley, which was NOT poor land or a desert. It was already blooming and had done so for centuries. Of the Jezreel Valley Bayard Taylor 1852 wrote “one of the richest districts in the world” Laurence Oliphant 1887 wrote “the Valley of Esdraelon (Jezreel) was ‘a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive’ “ Kibutz Alumot was a failure in his time, it didn’t turn the desert into garden. It was abandoned until 1967 and Kibbutz Geva was not in desert, it had been a garden for centuries. See also Mark Twain

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