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September 29, 2016

PERES LIES ON BEHALF OF ISRAEL, IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AT THE UNITED NATIONS


It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, it’s a territory of State of Palestine…

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Peres was an inveterate liar, warmonger and terrorist

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Israel, MDG Debate 20 September 2010
Transcribed from http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2010/09/israel-mdg-debate.html

“Mr President, ladies and gentlemen. History was written in blood. Most wars were waged over territory. Today, science, creativity and knowledge replaced land as the source of wealth. Land can be conquered. Not science. Science is global, borderless. Armies can’t conquer it.”

Lie No# 1 – Israel stifles the ability of the Palestinians to develop science, creativity, knowledge, agriculture, self determination, by illegally acquiring Palestinian land and suppressing them, with the IDF. The IDF is an army!

“Yet, still, Lawless terrorists spread violence caused by ideological differences, social gaps and sheer fanaticism.”

A) Peres was a member of the terrorist Haganah. They did not stop until their goal was achieved. B) Already he forgot the wars “waged over territory” in which Israel has illegally ‘acquired by war’ some 50% of the Palestinians rightful territories since 1948.

” The new millennium must liberate the world, from bloodshed, from discrimination, from hunger, from ignorance, from maladies.

Modern science is capable to provide new answers. In the coming ten years there will be an explosion of knowledge. Computation power increased a million folds in the last 25 years. Scientists are venturing into the brain.

Mr. President,

I speak on behalf of a small people, and a tiny land. We knew rebirth despite the murder of one third of our people. The Shoah. We were alone. Our land was attacked 7 times in 62 years. Again.”

Lie No# 2 – Israeli/Jewish forces OUTSIDE OF Israel’s Sovereign territories were attacked. Israel was acting outside of it’s actual Sovereign territory. It did not ask for UN help, because it knew it would not be forthcoming. There is no UNSC Resolution condemning the Arab States Invasion of PALESTINE. Israel had just been declared independent of Palestine, even as Jewish forces were outside of the territory being declared as Sovereign. What was a civil war escalation under Plan Dalet, became a war waged by a State (Israel) on a non-state entity, the moment Israel declared it’s sovereign territory and adopted the Jewish forces outside of it’s sovereign territory. The Arab States had a right, as Regional Powers, to attempt to expel foreign forces from the non-state entity they represented.

“Never giving up on hope, we developed science. We found that the future is in our hands. We learned that people can enrich land, no less than land can nourish the people.

Israel is the product of pioneering human spirit – not of financial capital”

Lie No# 3 – The Jewish Colonial Trust was one of the first things setup by the Zionist Federation garnering support from Jewish people around the world, because it DID depend on capital. The Kibbutz was poor. He was poor. He had only two pairs of pants. The Zionist Federation and the Institutions had more than two suits. Theodor Herzl didn’t even bother to go live in Israel. Never worked on a kibbutz.

“In spite of wars, we made peace with Egypt and Jordan.”

Lie No# 4 – Israel was FIRST required to AGREE to the terms of a Peace Treaty. The Terms it acquiesced to, required Israel to AGREE to WITHDRAW from ALL of Egypt’s territory, then implement the WITHDRAWAL and FINALIZE the withdrawal, BEFORE peaceful relations resumed. Israel is still claiming territory OUTSIDE of it’s Sovereignty. No Arab State has claimed ANY Israeli territory since the Declaration of the State of Israel …within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947,. Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory. Not the undeclared territory ‘acquired’ by war by 1950 or “territories occupied” and never withdrawn from. Left under in the trust of a Regional Occupying Power.

“The territorial dispute with Lebanon has ended and acknowledged so by the UN.

We left Gaza on our own initiative. Completely. “

Lie No# 5 – UNSC Res 1860 on Caste Lead, tells us Israel occupies Gaza

“We are now negotiating with the Palestinians in order to realize the two-state-solution:

A Jewish state, Israel. An Arab State- Palestine. There is no other peaceful alternative. And, I believe that we shall succeed”

Lie No# 6 – ‘I believe that we shall succeed’… By Israel continuing to act illegally by aiding and abetting the ILLEGAL settlements continuing in “territories occupied”. It is against the GC’s. The GC’s were formulated in large part because of the horrors perpetuated on the Jewish people. They are there in order to protect all civilians, including those of the Occupying Power, by keeping them out of areas where arms might be expected, especially when that territory belongs to someone else. It is also against Israeli law for Israeli citizens to enter a hostile entity. Does he really expect talks to succeed while Israel continues to act outside the law? While illegal settlers blatantly flaunt the International Law. Israel agreed to uphold International Law. At this time, it has done NO THING to uphold International Law. It is shamefull.

“We are ready to enter in direct negotiations with Syria immediately.

Immediately, has taken 42 years of occupying the Sovereign territory of an Independent Sovereign State and illegally settling Israelis in it! UNSC Res 242. “..acknowledgment of Sovereign integrity etc etc”

Mr. President,

We are committed to the Millennium development goals. We share the burden of saving the world from war and hunger. Without peace, poverty will remain. Without food – peace will not prevail.

Statesmen have to mobilize political power to achieve peace. Scientists can enable the land produce more food. We developed an agriculture based on science.

Our farmers produce 8-folds per acre compared with the nation’s early days. The need for water was cut in half. We employed desalination, recycling, drip and electronic irrigation and bio-engineering to create new seeds and richer crops.

Five decades ago, an Israeli farmer produced food for 15 persons. Today, he produces for 120.

The farmer’s contribution to the GDP equals that of a high-tech engineer. To cultivate land, you have to cultivate education and improve health.

So we introduced free compulsory education for all, from age 5 to 18. It brought an end to illiteracy and provided us with the highest rate of scientists per square mile in the world. The National health-care system provides world-class treatment for every citizen.

We are also one of the only countries in the world that entered the 21st century with more trees than it had when it entered the 20th century.”

Lie No# 7 – Agriculture and trees planted in Illegally ‘acquired’ territory by 1950 (never annexed) and in ‘territories occupied’ (illegally annexed) are NOT IN Israel. ONE THIRD of the territory Israel claims as it’s own, ISN’T.

“Mr. President,

I am confident that our path is available to everyone. Our experience is replicable. We are ready to share our experience as we did already with many countries –– both through UN agencies and bilaterally.

Our call includes also nations that don’t have diplomatic ties with us.

Mr. President,

The other day, the formal leader of Iran declared there’s no future for Israel in the Middle East.”

Lie No# 8 He did? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=”no+future+for+Israel+in+the+Middle+East”+%2BAhmadinejad+-peres

“I believe that the Middle East has room for every person, every nation, every religion.

We believe that every person was created in the image of the lord – and there’s just one Lord who calls not to hate, not to threaten, not to seek superiority, and not to kill. There is enough room for friendship in the Middle East.”

Lie No# 9 – Israel kills, actually maintains superiority over the Palestinians, illegally acquires their territory, occupies them, illegally annexes, illegally settles, has dispossessed half the population and has threatened them if they did not comply. Every day. For 62 years.
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“Ladies and Gentlemen,

In my youth I was a member of a Kibbutz, cultivating poor land.”

Lie No# 10 – He worked in two – Kibbutz Alumot, which was in desert. In his time it was a failure. It didn’t blossom in the desert.

The other, Geva in the Jezreel Valley, which was NOT poor land or a desert. It was already blooming and had done so for centuries. Of the Jezreel Valley Bayard Taylor 1852 wrote one of the richest districts in the world

Laurence Oliphant 1887 wrote the Valley of Esdraelon (Jezreel) was ‘a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive’

” I owned, like all members, two shirts and two pairs of pants. There was a third pair of pants: made of flannel reserved for grooms only.

I was lucky to wear them for two full days during my wedding. The main dish in the kibbutz was eggplants. Meat was available once a week, but not every week. There was no private money and little collective money.

We were poor and happy. The sort of happiness felt when a person as is turning desert into garden. “

Lie No# 11 – Kibutz Alumot was a failure in his time, it didn’t turn the desert into garden. It was abandoned until 1967 and Kibbutz Geva was not in the desert, it had been a fertile garden for centuries.

“Today the kibbutz has a thriving agriculture and a profitable guest house. Food is plentiful. It is in the kibbutz, in scarcity, where I learned to respect pioneers. And developed an affinity to creative minds and laborious hands. Actually, my early dream was to see the world as a great kibbutz. Free, peaceful, productive.”

Lie No# 12 – Except for the Palestinians who Israel continues to dispossess and occupy. Whose land Israel continues to illegally acquire. Who Israel will not allow trade in or out of Gaza, stifling any development and productivity.

“Mr. President,

I call upon this gathering to address the two burning challenges: first, to harness science and technology to increase food production. And second, to stand together against terror. “

Lie No# 13 – He was a member of the terrorist outfit Haganah, who fought to establish Israel. He has become the President. If he wasn’t a terrorist, he wouldn’t be President.

A hungry world will never be peaceful.

Lie No# 14 – Israel currently has an embargo on ALL Palestinian citizens in Gaza. Until Israel lifted some restrictions after the outcry over it’s unwarranted attack on the Mavi Marmara, the embargo included foodstuffs.

“A terrorized world will never be governable. We should unite around a common hope. The cradle of our children shall be the cradle of our vision.”

Israel’s vision in 1949 was this

Today it is this

September 8, 2016

Does Geneva Convention IV apply to the West Bank? The UNSC says it does!


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According to the Israeli narrative “Jordan illegally occupied Judea and Samaria” after the 1948 war.
Fact is, on the 3rd of April 1949 Israel signed an Armistice Agreement with the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom leaving Jordan legally in military control of what was official renamed the West Bank.

The Israeli narrative also tells us “Jordan’s annexation of the West Bank was illegal”.
The West Bank was legally annexed to Jordan by request of representatives of the majority of the legitimate inhabitants of the West Bank, in keeping with International Law concerning self determination

Unlike the unilateral annexation by Israel of East Jerusalem, which was condemned by the UNSC, there was no UNSC condemnation of the bilateral annexation of the West Bank by Jordan

The other Arab states demanded Jordan annex the West Bank as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950) in keeping with the UN Charter Chapter XI

By 1967 Jordan, including the West Bank, was a UN Member State and had ratified Geneva Convention IV. In other words, it was a High Contracting Power

UNSC res 228 tells us the West Bank was “the territory of Jordan

UNSC res 476 tells us Geneva Convention IV is applicable http://wp.me/pDB7k-W8

By the UNSC resolutions, reaffirming and emphasizing binding Law/UN Charter/etc, the Israeli narrative is simply bullsh*t!

Further reading re-recognition of the annexation of the West Bank by Jordan thanks to D G Fincham:

http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=turn&entity=FRUS.FRUS1948v05p2.p1138&id=FRUS.FRUS1948v05p2&isize=M

http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=turn&entity=FRUS.FRUS1950v05.p0943&id=FRUS.FRUS1950v05&isize=M

October 11, 2015

Israeli Defense Forces story does not add up again


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From Haaretz Oct 11, 2015 7:32 AM

On Saturday, an Iron Dome defense system intercepted a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip toward southern Israel’s Hof Ashkelon Regional Council. In response, the Israel Defense Forces attacked what they said were two Hamas weapons manufacturing sites in north Gaza.

If they knew they were weapons manufacturing sites, why didn’t they attack them BEFORE? Why wait until a rocket is fired?

October 7, 2015

Hadeel al-Hashlamoun – the Israeli Defense Forces story does not add up


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On September 22 2015: 18 year old Palestinian Hadeel al-Hashlamoun was shot to death at a Hebron checkpoint by Israeli soldiers.

Justified?
You decide!

The IDF claim she was coming at them with a knife.
But after having been shot in both legs and falling to the ground,
she somehow miraculously made it back thru the barrier to the opposite side,
where she was again shot some five or six times at close range, in the torso.

In fact, she was laying on the opposite side of the barrier when, while she was still alive, dis-armed and helpless, they dragged her by the feet thru the dirt, under the barricade, to the IDF side.

In this photo, we see the rubbish bin has been moved to the opposite side of the supporting uprights.

Sure we see the alleged knife, however, they’ve already dragged a girl, still alive, under the barricade to the IDF side, then shot her and the evidence has already been tampered with by moving the bin. Why would anyone choose to believe anything they say without their being definitive evidence?

An account by Marcel Leme, International Human Rights Observer

Did they think she was a suicide bomber? Very doubtful. Suicide vests are exploded by the release of the trigger and they had already shot her AND dragged her by the feet through the dirt to the IDF side of the barrier and;
Only a complete moron would shoot a person at close range if they though that person was wearing explosives. Furthermore she was shot in the torso, where the explosives of a suicide belt would be!

It simply does not make sense.

October 1, 2015

One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind


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One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind

The raising of the flag of the STATE OF PALESTINE!

http://webtv.un.org/watch/raising-of-the-palestinian-flag-at-the-united-nations/4521239871001

UN speech by Mahmoud Abbas

http://webtv.un.org/watch/palestine-general-debate-70th-session/4521133284001

August 15, 2015

Israeli propaganda depends on you not checking!


How many times have you read the Jordanian occupation and annexation of the West Bank was illegal
Or perhaps the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank was illegal, only two countries recognized it
Or perhaps Geneva Convention IV is not applicable to the West Bank/Israeli settlements

Have you ever checked or thought about these notions?

1) Illegal occupation. Israel signed an Armistice Agreement with Jordan. If the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank was illegal, where does that leave Israel’s May 22nd 1948 self admitted occupation of territories “outside the State of Israel”?

2) Illegal annexation. Unlike the unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem by Israel, not recognized by anyone, condemned by the UNSC with at least eight reminders affording Israel the opportunity to abide by the binding Law, the UN Charter and relevant conventions re-affirmed and emphasized in those resolutions, Jordan’s bilateral annexation of what became known as the West Bank was by agreement with the occupied.

Although at the time Jordan was not a UN Member state, this was in keeping with the UN Charter on self determination. Furthermore and contrary to the Israeli notion that it was condemned by the Arab states, they in fact demanded of Jordan that the annexation be as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950), again in keeping with the UN Charter Chapt XI as a “sacred trust”

3) Recognition of annexed territories. A) The legality of annexation is not dependent on recognition. It is dependent on self determination per the UN Charter (ibid). B) if we take the Israeli propaganda claiming illegality because only two or three countries recognized the Jordanian annexation, where does it leave the legality of Israel’s unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem, recognized by no one?

The Jordanian annexation was recognized by the US BTW

“…it was not the custom of this country to issue formal statements of recognition every time a foreign country changed its territorial area. The union of Arab Palestine and Jordan had been brought about as a result of the will of the people and the US accepted the fact that Jordanian sovereignty had been extended to the new area. Mr. Iiifai said he had not realized this and that he was very pleased to learn that the US did in fact recognize the union” United States Department of State / Foreign relations of the United States, 1950. The Near East, South Asia, and Africa (1950) Page 921

4) GC IV. Israeli propaganda claims it is not applicable to the West Bank/Israeli settlements because the West Bank was not a High Contracting Power. However, in 1967 the West Bank was under the sovereignty of Jordan, who at the time was a UN Member State and a High Contracting Power.

One only needs to scratch the surface. The Israeli narrative is bullsh*t!

March 5, 2015

Netanyahu speaks to the US congress 2015 or Fellating the donkey for Israel

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lipstick in the US congress

December 15, 2014

More theft by Israel. Not showing Jewish values!


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Palestinian maritime borders From Haaretz – By Eran Azran and Reuters 22:09 14.12.14

A new natural gas field off Israel’s Mediterranean coast may hold about 3.2 trillion cubic feet of gas, about one third the size of the giant Tamar field, its two Israeli partners said Sunday after conducting a 3D seismic survey of the area.

If the estimate is accurate, reserves for the Royee prospect, located about 150 kilometers (93 miles) offshore Israel and close to its maritime borders with Cyprus and Egypt, would be the third-largest discovered in Israeli waters and the fourth-largest in the Mediterranean Basin, said Israel Opportunity, a partner in the group.

Problem … Under which official agreement did Israel legally acquire the territories “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”?

Fact is, there is no such agreement and;
the acquisition of territory by war was illegal by 1933 under the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, adopted into the UN Charter 1945, International Law when Israel’s boundaries were proclaimed and recognized!

Put simply, Israel’s maritime borders with Egypt are not as claimed

Israel’s Mediterranean coastline extends only as far South as Ashdod and North as far as Acre!

Map of Palestinian territory never legally annexed to Israel

December 10, 2014

The Hasbara is really stupid propaganda. Laws reaffirmed in UN resolutions are binding!


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You’ll see it again and again .. UN/UNGA and UNSC Chapt VI resolutions are non binding.

However, the UN Charter itself is binding on ALL Members in its entirety.

That matters be resolved peacefully in accordance with International Law and the UN Charter is binding.

UN Charter chapters re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolution are as a matter of course binding! They do not suddenly become non-binding just because they’re in a so called ‘non-binding’ resolution.

Similarly International and Customary International Law is binding. Laws re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolution are binding!

Likewise conventions that have been ratified by a majority of the International Comity of Nations automatically pass into Customary International Law and are thereby binding. The majority of Nations have ratified the Geneva Conventions. Geneva conventions re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolutions are binding!

December 6, 2014

More stupid Hasbara


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Screen shot from Haaretz Dec 6th 2014

fake Iranian patch 01

fake Iranian patch 02

You decide

December 5, 2014

More Stupid Hasbara – Arafat was born in Egypt


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“It’s ironic that the man who personified the Palestinian movement was neither born in the region it claims, nor conforms to his own organization’s definition of Palestinian identity”

So what? Like all Hasbara, where Arafat was born is irrelevant to the actual sovereign extent of Israel’s self proclaimed, Internationally recognized boundaries and Israel’s illegal activities as the Occupying Power over non-Israeli territories over the last 66 years. That’s right 66 years! Not since 1967 as often claimed!

Applying the same stupid criteria to Israel, we find that only one of the signatories to Israel’s Declaration of statehood was born in the region

David Ben-Gurion – Płońsk, Poland – Palestine 1906
Rabbi Kalman Kahana – Galicia (Ukraine) – Palestine 1938
Aharon Zisling – Minsk, Belarus – Palestine 1904
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi – Poltava (Ukraine) – Palestine 1907
Saadia Kobashi – Yemen – Palestine 1909
Daniel Auster – Knihinin (Ukraine) – Palestine 1914
Rachel Cohen – Odesa – Palestine 1919
David-Zvi Pinkas – Sopron, Austria/Hungary – Palestine 1925
Mordechai Bentov = Grodzisk Mazowiecki, Poland – Palestine 1920
Moshe Kol – Pinsk, Belarus – Palestine 1932
Eliyahu Berlignee – Russia – Palestine 1907
Rabbi Yitzchak Meir Levin – Góra Kalwaria, Russia – Palestine 1940
Eliezer Kaplan – Minsk, Russia – Palestine 1920
Peretz Bernstein – Meiningen, Germany – Netherlands til Palestine 1936
Abraham Katznelson – Bobruisk, Belorussia – Palestine 1924
Rabbi Wolf Gold – Stettin, Germany (Poland) – US 1907 – Palestine 1935
Meir David Loewenstein – Copenhagen, Denmark – Palestine 1934
Pinchas Rosen – Berlin, Germany – Palestine 1926
Meir Grabovsky – Rîbniţa, Russia – Palestine 1927
David Remez – Kopys, Belorussia – Palestine 1913
Yitzhak Gruenbaum – Warsaw, Poland – Palestine 1933
Zvi Luria (Lurie) – Lodz, Poland – Palestine 1924
Berl Repetur – Ruzhyn, Ukraine – Palestine 1920
Dr. Abraham Granovsky – Făleşti, Russia – Palestine 1924
Golda Myerson – Kiev, Ukraine – Palestine 1921
Mordekhai Shattner – Chernovitz ? ( Czernowitz ?), Ukraine ? – Palestine unsure (England during WWW2)
Nachum Nir – Warsaw, Poland – Palestine 1925
Ben-Zion Sternberg – Czernowitz, Austria /Hungary – Palestine 1939
Eliyahu Dobkin – Babruysk, Russia – Palestine 1932
Zvi Segal – Lithuania – Palestine unsure
Bechor-Shalom Sheetrit – Tiberias, Ottoman Empire
Meir Wilner-Kovner – Vilnius, Lithuania – Palestine 1938
Rabbi Yehuda Leib Hacohen Fishman – Mărculești, Russia – Palestine 1913
Haim-Moshe Shapira – Grodno, Belarus – Palestine 1925
Zerach Warhaftig – Volkovysk, Russia – Lithuania/Japan/Canada 1941 – Palestine 1947

BTW Very few were possibly subject to the Holocaust

November 10, 2014

The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal settlements before 1967 – Israel vs Palestine


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The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal Israeli settlers before 1967?

The following are not an unfounded accusations. The information is not from propaganda sites. They’re the official words of the Provisional Israeli Government 1948 as recorded by the UNSC and the Israeli Government web site and the opinion of the International Court of Justice and the Laws of War and some of the States who recognized Israel. You decide.

Israel’s legal sovereign extent was defined by the Provisional Government of the State of Israel in its plea for recognition and it was immediately recognized as such while at war outside the territory of the State of Israel .. in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel [1]

May 15, 1948

Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

Samples of the recognition of Israel:

USA 15 May 1948 “… as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947…”

Russia 17 May 1948
Letter from Mr. Molotov stated: “Confirming receipt of your telegram of May 16, in which you inform the Government of the USSR of the proclamation, on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947, of the creation in Palestine of the independent State of Israel and make re-quest for the recognition of the State of Israel and its provisional government by the USSR. I inform yon in this letter that the Govern-ment of the USSR has decided to recognize officially the Stale of Israel and its Provisional Government.”

British 27 April 1950
“His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.” (Thus far nothing has replaced them)

Australia 28 January 1949 “… on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947…”

May 22nd 1948 Israeli Government statement

On May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 the Provisional Government of Israel answered questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations.

Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

"In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed." ... " the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel"

“international regulations” at the time say;

Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
"Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."

Further to which as recently as 2004

9th July 2004 International Court of Justice the Court refers to the provisions of the Hague Regulation of 1907, which have become part of customary law, as well as the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 1949, applicable in those Palestinian territories which before the armed conflict of 1967 lay to the east of the 1949 Armistice demarcation line (or “Green Line”) and were occupied by Israel during that conflict

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3 Jun 1948 in the Knesset

Report to the Provisional Government of Israel by Prime Minister and Minister of Defence Ben-Gurion 3 Jun 1948
"The entire expanse of the State of Israel allocated to us under the terms of the UN resolution is in our hands, and we have conquered several important districts outside those boundaries".
and;
"To the greatest possible extent, we will remain constantly on the offensive, which will not be confined to the borders of the Jewish State".

12 Aug 1948

the Provisional Israeli Government proclaimed Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

Occupation can actually be dated from May 22nd 1948.

None of these areas have ever been legally annexed to Israel. See HERE for the possible legal repercussions of this situation and HERE for the possible ramifications for Israeli citizens.

HERE for up to date information on all illegal settlements from peacenow.org

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territory acquired by war by Israel and never legally annexed.  Israel has illegally acquired about 50% of the Palestinians rightful territories.
BIG detailed Google Earth overlay

Includes the UNGA text.
Load the kmz file into Google Earth
then use the properties in the left hand column
to vary the transparency
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Map also available from Wikimedia

July 13, 2014

Israeli propaganda FAIL! Photo fakes July 2014


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Who does Israel think it’s fooling with fake photos?
1) The water pipes either side are completely un-damaged. It simply DOES NOT look like a rocket of that diameter has buried the majority of its length in the earth!
It’s OBVIOUSLY fake!
fake Hamas rocket - Hasbara

2) A rocket might have struck this house at some time, but there’s no signs of charring from a grad explosion WHAT SO EVER!!!
Is it a photo of demolition work?

See how Israel’s Magic Sofa Chairs resist the charring and shrapnel you’d expect to see from a rocket explosion large enough to cause this amount of damage!
fake rocket damage 2 - Hasbara

See how Israel’s Magic Sofa Chairs bury themselves under the rubble
fake rocket damage - Hasbara

The amount of damage it seems, was caused by the explosion of two gas cylinders allegedly set off by a grad rocket. Oddly there are no photos of the remnants of the alleged rocket. If it completely disintegrated, one would expect far more damage and a lot of charring.

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Compare the kind of destruction wrought on Palestine to that on Israel

gaza destruction 01
gaza destruction 02
islamic university Gaza aug 2104
gaza destruction 05
gaza destruction 06

Destruction in Gaza ———- Destruction in Israel

The Palestinians have no where to flee the war zone, not even the sea. Under the 2005 agreement and the Israeli/Egypt Peace Treaty Israel has had all the crossings closed including those with Egypt. Only an Occupying Power has this right.

In the bigger picture, the Palestinians ask for far less than their LEGAL rights under the Laws and UN Charter which Israel is obliged to follow. Abbas offered in front of the world at the UN to concede 78% of their rightful territory for peace, Meanwhile while Israel offers nothing and makes demands that have absolutely no legal basis what so ever and continues its illegal expansionist policies.

May 30, 2014

Palestinians continue to die in their own country at the hands of the Occupying Power


15th May 1948 Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.” Israel has never legally acquired any further territory!

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An analysis of some of the information available relating to the deaths of Nadim Nuwara and Mohammad Abu Thaher in Beitunia on May 15th 2014 in the occupied State of Palestine


“He fell forward. A bullet would have knocked him away from the fire, he should have fallen back…” Bullsh*t! A rabbit isn’t even knocked away from the fire of a .22 bullet

The Palestinians ask for their legal rights under the Laws and UN Charter Israel agreed to uphold.

Meanwhile, “Israel, the Occupying Power” makes demands that have no legal basis what so ever. Read UNSC res 476, one of EIGHT reminders to Israel of its legal obligations and giving Israel the OPPORTUNITY to adhere to the law. Unfortunately the Jewish state has failed to live up to the promises it made when it was proclaimed and when it became a UN Member state.

April 8, 2014

Hasbara the world’s worst propaganda. Israel actually refuses Israelis RoR. Think about it


Civilians who have RoR and wish to return to what was “proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947” had at the very least a right to have become full Israeli citizens under the notions of Self Determination Israel had embraced by becoming a UN Member state!

If they fled before Israel proclaimed its borders, they were Palestine refugees. Refugees from Palestine. Under UNGA resolution 181 accepted “as binding” by the Jewish Agency, they had an equal right to be citizens of the Jewish state (Israeli) or; citizens of what remained of Palestine (Palestinians) or; take citizenship in a country other than the country of return, thereby forgoing refugee status.

Refugees who have RoR to become Israeli citizens to Israel as proclaimed and recognized (ibid), are not Palestinian refugees!

Palestinian refugees, citizens of the territory “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine” do not have a right of return to Israel. They do however have RoR to Palestinian territories Israel has illegally acquired by war and never legally annexed since proclaiming its sovereign extent and obligations to International Law to the world on May 15th 1948 (ibid).

November 14, 2013

Israel agree to two states? Israel’s intentions were voiced to the Conciliation Commission on August 31st 1949. It’s actions since, show no change of plan.


15th May 1948 Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

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Despite the fact that the League of Nations Covenant Article 20 tells us Palestine was a state with provisional recognition, referenced in the very first line of the League of Nation Mandate for Palestine and in Article 7, one of Israel’s main assertions has been that Palestine has never been a state.

Another of Israel’s arguments is that because the Arabs refused to recognize UNGA res 181, Israel somehow has some extra special right to territories the Israeli Government itself claimed on May 22nd 1948 were “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”  and under Israeli military control.  I.e., “occupied”

The arguments are not only nonsense, they’re entirely irrelevant.  States cannot simply take what is not their own without the express permission of the legal inhabitants.  Since at least 1933 it has been illegal (inadmissible) to “acquire” territory by war, furthermore it is illegal for other states to recognize territories acquired by war.  A fact confirmed by Schwebel, Lauterpacht & Herzog, who tell us territory may only be “restored” by war.  No Israeli territories have ever been taken.  Israel has never had to ‘restore’ any of its territories, it has been “acquiring” territory by war.

Israel is no different from any other independent state. What lies outside of Israel’s legal sovereign extent, is simply not Israeli.  Since Israel’s territories were proclaimed by the Israeli Government in their plea for recognition, no further territories have ever been legally acquired by Israel by any agreement and no state has ever recognized any territories acquired by war as Israeli.

Israel’s official 31st of August 1949 claim (as a UN Member state) to alleged non-state territories of Palestine shows “respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area”  except for the Palestinian territories.   Israel’s claim was refused BTW, citing the Armistice Agreements.

The Egypt Israel Peace Treaty ensured Israel withdrew from all territories sovereign to Egypt before peaceful relations were assumed. Again eventually showing respect for the territory belonging to state in the region.

Not so with the West Bank as it is now known, which was legally annexed by Jordan at the request of the Palestinians.  Jordan’s annexation of that territory was as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950). Unlike the UNSC condemnation of Israel’s unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem, there is no UNSC condemnation of the bilateral annexation by Jordan.  At the time of its capture by Israel in 1967, the west Bank was territory sovereign to Jordan, by then UN Member state and High Contracting Power. Which is why  the UNSC considers Geneva Convention IV to apply.

The vast majority of the International Community of Nations have already recognized Palestine as a state in accordance with the Palestinians 1988 declaration of statehood, where Palestine conceded 78% of their rightful territories for peace with Israel.  Israel’s reply was to ignore and create even more illegal facts on the ground.

Despite hundreds of UNSC resolutions affording Israel hundreds of opportunities to adhere to the binding Laws, UN Charter and relevant binding conventions those resolutions reaffirm and emphasize, why does Israel insist  maintaining its stance in respect to the territories “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine” ?

Perhaps the answer lies in one line of  A) the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel “The state of Israel ….will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel and one line from; B) Deuteronomy 20:15 which describes how territories not belonging to neighbouring states should be treated.

…1948 …discussing the Declaration…

Ben-Gurion did not want to limit themselves from the outset: We accepted the UN Resolution, but the Arabs did not. They are preparing to make war on us. If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. Why should we obligate ourselves to accept boundaries that in any case the Arabs don’t accept?”

It should be noted that A) the resolution contained the proviso as envisaged in this plan, B) the Jewish Agency’s final acceptance of UNGA res 181 is enshrined in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel and C) the Israeli Government asked to be and indeed was recognized per the frontiers outlined in the resolution. Furthermore, the resolution contained no clause requiring the Arab States to agree or co-sign, nor could it. It was an offer for “either” party to declare Sovereign Independence over a set of boundaries as envisaged in this plan, if they wished. It was not and could not be demanded or obligatory as it would go against the meaning of ‘independent’. The declaration of one could not be ‘dependent’ on the other. This was confirmed by the Jewish Agency itself prior to declaration Friday, 19 March 1948 Rabbi Silver replacing Mr. Shertok at the Council table as representative of the Jewish Agency for Palestine stated:

“We are under the obligation at this time to repeat what we stated at a [262nd meeting] meeting of the Security Council last week: The decision of the General Assembly remains valid for the Jewish people. We have accepted it and we are prepared to abide by it. If the United Nations Palestine Commission is unable to carry out the mandates which were assigned to it by the General Assembly, the Jewish people of Palestine will move forward in the spirit of that resolution and will do everything which is dictated by considerations of national survival and by considerations of justice and historic rights.” “The setting up of one State was not made conditional upon the setting up of the other State.”

And again Security Council S/PV.271 19 March 1948 The representative of the Jewish Agency, Rabbi Silver:

“The statement that the plan proposed by the General Assembly is an integral plan which cannot succeed unless each of its parts can be carried out, is incorrect. This conception was never part of the plan. Indeed, it is contrary to the statement made by the representative of the United States during the second session of the General Assembly. The setting up of one State was not made conditional upon the setting up of the other State. Mr. Herschel Johnson, representing the United States delegation, speaking in a sub-committee of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question on 28 October 1947, stated, in discussing this very matter in connexion with economic union: “The element of mutuality would not necessarily be a factor, as the document might be signed by one party only.”

UNGA res 181 F. ADMISSION TO MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NATIONS

When the independence of either the Arab or the Jewish State as envisaged in this plan has become effective and the declaration and undertaking, as envisaged in this plan, have been signed by either of them, sympathetic consideration should be given to its application for admission to membership in the United Nations in accordance with article 4 of the Charter of the United Nations. (Article 4 Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter and, in the judgment of the Organization, are able and willing to carry out these obligations)

In order to be accepted into the UN through a recommendation by the UNSC, Israel had to declare its independence “as envisaged in” the UN plan enshrined in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel and; the International Community of Nations granted recognition as asked by the Provisional Government of Israel.

Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel… ” I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

ShortLink to here In the following letter of the 31st August 1949 to Conciliation Commission Israel reveals : A) It’s intention to possess all the non-state (Palestinian) territories in the region. B) It’s admission, by stating it’s intention, that the non-state territories it had acquired by war by 1949 were not it’s own C) It’s admission, by stating it’s intention, that no part of Syria (the Golan) was Israeli. D) It’s admission, by stating it’s intention, that there would be no form of self determination by the Palestinians, relating only to the surrounding Arab states E) Via the final paragraph, if Israel didn’t get it’s way, it would not respect the recognized Sovereign integrity of the Arab states and their right to live in peace

31 August 1949 Addressed to the Chairman of the Conciliation Commission by Mr. Reuven. Shiloah Head of the Delegation of Israel and containing Replies to the Commission’s Questionnaire of 15 August 1949 I have the honour to acknowledge receipt of the Conciliation Commission’s memorandum of August 15 and to convey to you the answers of the Delegation of Israel to the questions submitted therein, 1. The Delegation of Israel is prepared to sign a declaration along the general lines suggested in Chapter I of the Commission’ s memorandum, subject to precision on the following specific points: (a) The Government of Israel considers that the solution of the refugee problem is to be sought primarily in the resettlement of the refugees in Arab territories, but it is prepared for its part, as already indicated to the Commission, to make it’s own contribution by agreeing to a measure of resettlement in Israel. (b) While the Government of Israel cannot bind itself in advance to the implementation of such solutions as the survey group may propose, it will undertake to facilitate the task of this group and to give full consideration to any proposals the group may put forward 2. The Delegation of Israel wishes to offer certain further comments on Chapter I of the Commission’s memorandum, in order to make its attitude perfectly clear: (a) The Delegation of Israel has taken note of the proviso that it is understood that the repatriated refugees will become ipso facto citizens of Israel and that no discrimination will be practised against them both with regard to the civil and political rights which they will exercise and to the obligation imposed upon them by the law of the land. The Delegation is astonished however,that there is no mention of any similar understanding with regard to the refugees to be resettled elsewhere. (b) The Delegation of Israel desires to stress it’s understanding that any repatriation in Israel as indicated by the Commission, would take place subject to financial assistance furnished by the International community and that such assistance would be extended to include the. resettlement of Jewish refugees from the Arab-controlled areas of Palestine (c The Delegation of Israel has already presented to the Commission a provisional estimate of the number of refugees which the Government of Israel would be ready to accept. It is desired, in this connection, to point out that the Government of Israel’s willingness to facilitate the task of the survey group rests within the framework of the contribution which it has declared itself ready to make to the solution of the refugee problem. (d) The Delegation of Israel desires to take this opportunity of reiterating its earlier statement to the Commission that the Government of Israel can agree to the repatriation of refugees to Israel only as part of an overall settlement of the refugee problem and of the Palestine conflict.

Link this bit 3. With regard to the territorial adjustments of which the Commission treats in Chapter II of it’s memorandum, the Delegation of Israel considers that in addition to the territory indicated on the working document annexed to the Protocol of May 12, all other areas falling within the control and jurisdiction of Israel under the terms of the armistice agreements concluded by Israel with Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom and Syria should be formally recognized as Israeli territory. The adjustment of the frontiers so created will be subject to negotiation and agreement between Israel and the Arab Government in each case concerned. 4, In this connection the Delegation of Israel desires to offer a number of observations: (a) The territorial adjustments proposed above has the following effects: (i) No territory forming part of Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria is added to Israel by this adjustment (ii) No territory ever awarded to Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria by any international instrument or held by them under any agreement is added to Israel by this adjustment. (iii) No territory in which Egypt, the Lebanon, the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom or Syria exercises authority or jurisdiction under the armistice agreements concluded pursuant to the Security Councils resolution of November 16, 1948 and endorsed by the Security Council’s resolution of August 11, 1949 is added to Israel by this adjustment. If the territorial adjustment proposed were not effected, territory awarded to Israel under an international instrument or held by it under the terms of an agreement (viz: territory in which Israel exercises authority and jurisdiction under, the armistice agreements concluded pursuant to the Security Council’s resolution of November 16, I948 and endorsed by the Security Council’s resolution of August 11, 1949) would be added to one or more Arab States. The Delegation of Israel holds, therefore, that only the territorial adjustment proposed above falls equally in its effects on the rights and position of each negotiating party, makes no encroachment upon existing sovereignties, and preserves the juridical status and actual, stability achieved by the existing agreements. This method of achieving a territorial settlement is furthermore, in precise accord with the resolution adopted by the General Assembly on December 11, 1948 calling upon the Governments concerned to extend the scope of the negotiations provided for in the Security Council’s resolution of November 16, 1948 and to seek agreement by negotiations conducted either with the Conciliation Commission or directly, with a view to the final settlement of all questions outstanding between them. 5, I venture to point out that paragraph 3 above is to be read in the light of the observations offered in paragraph 4, and to request that in any use which the Commission may make of this statement of the Israeli Delegations position, shall not be cited without the addition of paragraph 3. I am Yours faithfully, Reuven Shiloah

THE REPLY: 3 September 1949 addressed to Mr. Reuven Shiloah, Head of the Delegation of Israel, by the Chairman of the Conciliation Commission, Emphatically dismisses the notion. referring Israel back to the armistice agreements. “2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary, and is delineated without prejudice to rights, claims and positions of either Party to the Armistice as regards ultimate settlement of the Palestine question” NB: (a) The territorial adjustments proposed above has the following effects: …etc etc The territorial adjustments proposed were not accepted, to the opposite effect. Actions speak louder than words. The ‘effects’ have been Israel has: A) failed to have respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.” B) illegally acquiring by war, Sovereign Syrian territory (Golan ’67). (Israel was requires, agreed and withdrew from Egyptian territory BEFORE peaceful relations were assumed) C) illegally claimed non-state territories belonging to the Palestinians, prior to the question of Palestine being resolved. D) illegally annexed “territories occupied” E) illegally instituted Israeli Civil Law in “territories occupied” F) illegally built Israeli civilian infrastructure and dwellings for illegal settlers in illegally acquired and illegally annexed “territories occupied” G) illegally sold illegally acquired and illegally annexed “territories occupied” to illegal settlers H) has yet to write a constitution i) shown that it cannot be trusted J) As a separate state, taken away the Jewish right to live in all of Palestine, limiting Israeli Jews to only Israeli Sovereign territory unless, they become ILLEGAL settlers or citizens o Palestine or Syria (in the Golan). Furthermore, under the 1948 Israeli military ordinance, still current, it is forbidden for Israeli citizens or residents to travel from Israel into the territories of a hostile entity. Contrary to the Hasbara, the Israeli emergency Law of 1948 prevented Israeli Jews and Israeli Muslims, Israeli Christians et al, from worshiping in Jerusalem from 1948 – 1967.

It is of course quite common for countries at war to either expel or inter foreign nationals and/or possible 5th columnists and to freeze their assets.  It’s also common to repatriate then and release their assets at the close of hostilities.

October 24, 2013

fnlevit’s forum. What Mondoweiss doesn’t want you to see

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Conditions: Honesty, no propaganda, no WikI/Pedia, stay on topic

fnlevit says: October 23, 2013 at 6:40 pm“My latest posts are viciously blocked one after another – posts with links, honest research and references.”

October 12, 2013

The new Palestinian National Anthem according to Netanyahu


want a state

September 27, 2013

Netanyahu CONvincing the world at the UN 2013


netanyahu UN 2013 settlers guns

netanyahu Hasbarrow 02

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September 16, 2013

Stupid Israeli propaganda for people who don’t think

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If you examine the Israeli narrative on the issue of Arabs/Palestine, it never seems to add up.

E.g., “20% of the Israeli population was Arab”

By 1950 the population of Israel was estimated to be about 1,370,000

There were approximately 156,000 non-Jewish Israeli citizens who were not dispossessed from within the borders of the territory proclaimed by the Israeli Government and recognized as the State of Israel on the 15th May 1948 effective at 00:01 (ME time) and; there were an additional 500,000 Arab Jewish refugees from the Arab states. Many of whom were cared for by UNRWA until 1952/3 when the Israeli Government took over that responsibility.

That’s approximately 656,000 Arabs of a population of about 1,370,000. Which is about 47%.

This figure does not yet include the non-Jewish Israeli Arabs who were dispossessed by 1950 and it does not yet include the indigenous Arab Jews of Palestine.

By simple maths we can see the Arab population of Israel in 1948 was well in excess of 50%. A large number of Israeli Jews today are of Arabic descent. Arab DNA is deeply and inescapably embedded in the Israeli population

20% Arab? The closer you look the more bullsh*t you find

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