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November 2, 2010

Israel vs Palestine. Occupation is a position of TRUST. There is an OBLIGATION and a DUTY to PROTECT the occupied, their property and their territory.

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948.


Jerusalem Declared Israel Occupied City by Israeli Government Proclamation12 Aug 1948

Israel has never legally annexed any of this territories or any other territory it captured in the 1948/49 war.

The Occupying Power cannot legally annex without agreement with the civilian population of the territory being annexed, sans the citizens of the Occupying Power.

And Israel’s illegal annexation of east Jerusalem and the Golan, captured in the ’67 war were condemned by the UNSC.

Today Israel still occupies Palestinian territories, according to UNSC Res 1860 Jan 2009

Article 73“Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, and accept as a sacred trust the obligation to promote to the utmost, within the system of international peace and security established by the present Charter, the well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, and, to this end etc etc “

First, read the UN Charter, care fully. It is actually a fine document with noble aspirations. Perfect? No. Nothing is perfect. However nothing, by it’s very nature, simply doesn’t exist.

What does exist is a set of rules for when parties cannot, do not or refuse to resolve their conflicts. Many of the rules exist because of the fate of the millions who suffered the horrors brought on by the Nazis. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees exists in large part because of the dispossession and deaths of European Jews and countless millions of other innocent people.

The rules have been accepted by all UN Members, without reservation. A UN Member State cannot opt out of ANY of the UN Charter which BTW reminds UN Members of their obligations to International Law and conventions already ratified by the majority (passing into Customary International Law) before Israel became a member.

Under the UN Charter there is an obligation and a duty for the UN/UNSC and/or Regional Powers after having stated their intentions to the UNSC, to intervene when a UN Member state acts illegally outside the extent of it’s sovereignty. They’re the rules Israel unconditionally accepted in order to become a United Nations Member.

Under the UN Charter (Chapt XI) non-selfigoverned territories are to be afforded protection by UN Member States. Occupation is a position of TRUST. There is an obligation and a duty to protect the occupied, their property and their territory. There is an obligation to assist the occupied in achieving statehood with all their rights, in all of their rightfull territories.

Israel is doing exactly the opposite while the world stands by, terrified of being called Antisemitic if they dare criticize, even though justifiable criticism is founded in the very laws Israel swore to uphold. Influenced by the Hasbara provided by the squeakiest door in the building. Fearfull of what the little Red Heifer in the Middle East might do to the china shop if held to account.

Israel’s founders at the time of declaration were well aware of the legal implications of declaring sovereignty. Well aware of the UN Charter, Laws of War & Geneva Conventions, before committing to them. Israel’s legal advisers were not naive. They were aware of every word, every punctuation mark, every exacting detail. They know full well that as long as a resolution or the writing of a resolution is being disputed, no action can be taken. None more obvious than the delaying tactic of arguing over the word ‘the’ in UNSC Res 242.

Unless the Zionist Federation were idiots, and we know they weren’t, when Plan Dalet was launched they must have known Israel could not be held to account by the UN until it joined the UN. The UN cannot censure non-members. However, the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, says “it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations. “

A search of the UNSC resolutions on the conflict from 14th May 1948 till admission to the UN reveals no direct demand or censure on Israel. After admittance May 11, 1949, we see the UN directly censuring Israel.

Israel’s narrative now is “The UN is biased against Israel, why doesn’t the UN censure the Palestinians, Hamas?”. Well, unless idiots are running the country, it’s BLOODY OBVIOUS!!


January 2, 2010

The recognition of Israel. De jure? De facto? The Jewish State?

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of Palestine…


There is no legal basis in the demand that the Palestinians recognize Israel or Israel as the Jewish State. No other country in the world gave recognition to Israel as the “Jewish State” . They recognized Israel as the “State of Israel” as per the Declaration of the Establishment of “the State of Israel”

de jure and de facto recognition are recognitions of the legal status of States and/or Governments. Governments administer the State. Governments can change.

It is not within the mandate of the UN to recognize states. Already recognized states are admitted to the UN after they have been recommended by the UNSC, they must have been recognized as states before they can be recommended by the UNSC.

Recognition of statehood is not mandatory. ” the view of the United States, International Law does not require a state to recognize another state; it is a matter for the judgment of each state whether an entity merits recognition as a state. In reaching this judgment, the United States has traditionally looked of the establishment of certain facts. The United States has also taken into account whether the entity in question has attracted the recognition of the International community of states.” There are numerous UN Member states who do not recognize other UN Member States.

What is required of states is the respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force. This is reflected in UNSC res 242

Sovereign Territories belong to Independent Sovereign States, regardless of which Government is in power. A sovereign has complete control over all it’s territories and what happens within them, regardless of which Government is in power.

Non-Sovereign States, States and non-state entities also have territories. They are not there just for the taking.
A state entity might have full control of it’s territories and still not declare itself an independent sovereignty.
A state might also only partially control it’s territories, in which case, it cannot declare independent sovereignty.

( See why Palestine has never declared itself an independent sovereignty)
The difference between state and non-state is: a state has declared itself to be a state. There is no obligation for any entity to declare either statehood or independent sovereignty. It is a matter of self determination. Unilateral by nature. Independence means not being under the control of any other entity, person or power.

‘real estate’ is not ‘territory’: Real estate is bought and sold by private individuals, businesses, corporations, institutions. ‘Territory’ is the stuff of States and entities. ‘Real estate’ is irrelevant to the status of the ownership of the ‘territories’ of states/non-states/sovereign-states, entities. A person who rents or even a landless bum, living under a bridge, is an equal part of a state or entity. Territories of an entity belong to all the citizens of the entity. Annexation is of territory and its citizens.

For there to be International recognition of an independent sovereign State, the boundaries of the sovereign state must be defined in order to know exactly the extent of the territory being claimed as sovereign. Israel’s boundaries were defined when the Jewish People’s Council accepted and declared sovereignty per UNGA res 181, in order to be recognized as an Independent Sovereign State. The Israeli Government confirmed it’s declared boundaries in statements to the UNSC on May 22nd 1948 and June 15th 1949

UNGA res 181:
The resolution set out conditions under which either party could declare independent sovereignty, if they wished. No one can demand an entity declare independence. It did not require the two parties to co-sign. This would have been against the notions of self determination. On the 14th of May 1948 the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel to the International Community of Nations.

Although UNGA Res 181 was a non-binding resolution, UN/UNSC resolutions remind parties of laws, the UN charter etc that are binding. A Declaration of Sovereignty IS binding. It is a statement to the International Community of Nations, signifying the intention of the party declaring. Israel implemented it’s part of UNGA resolution 181. UNGA Res 181 is STILL enshrined in the Declaration of a Jewish State.

The UN did not implement the corpus separatum, Jerusalem remained a part of Palestine

The Arab League refused to recognize UNGA Res 181 on legal grounds. Not because of hatred towards Jews.

The Palestinians COULD NOT declare on 15 May 1948, because Jewish forces under Plan Dalet, were already in control of territories slated for the new Arab State by the time the British Mandate ended, midnight 14th May 1948

Recognition – de facto or de jure?: (de facto – facts on the ground) – (de jure – in law).
A State must exist before a State Government can be instituted. The territories must be defined in order for other Nations to know the extent of the Sovereignty being declared and the declaring entity must have full control over those territories. (Independence)

Link to this section
Statements made by the Jewish Agency to the UN/UNSC prior to recognition in respect to UNGA res 181 made it quite clear The Jewish Agency was going to abide by UNGA res 181. Recognitions were based on the notion that Israel accepted UNGA res 181 and the Israeli Government’s pleas for recognition to states.

The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States (entered into force on December 26, 1934), which required ” b ) a defined territory;” All those signatories would have required the same lest they breached the convention by recognizing a state without a defined territory.

Examples of recognition :
USA 15 May 1948 “… as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947…”

Russia 17 May 1948
Letter from Mr. Molotov stated: “Confirming receipt of your telegram of May 16, in which you inform the Government of the USSR of the proclamation, on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947, of the creation in Palestine of the independent State of Israel and make re-quest for the recognition of the State of Israel and its provisional government by the USSR. I inform yon in this letter that the Govern-ment of the USSR has decided to recognize officially the Stale of Israel and its Provisional Government.”

British 27 April 1950 The British Foreign Office issued a statement on May 17 to the effect that Great Britain would not recognize Israel for the time being because it had not fulfilled the “basic criteria” of an independent state. The British waited until a political party was elected to Govern the State of Israel, then granted de jure recognition, with conditions. The territories Israel had acquired by war, outside of it’s declared Sovereign Boundaries, were considered to be ‘occupied’. I.e., NOT Israeli Sovereign territory.
“His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.” Thus far nothing has replaced them.

Australia 28 January 1949 “… on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947…”

New Zealand 29 January 1949 “It is the understanding of the New Zealand Government that the settlement of boundaries and other outstanding questions will be effected in accordance with the resolution of the General Assembly of the United Nations of 11 December 1948.”

Israel has never legally annexed any territory. Unilateral annexation is not legal. It must be under a treaty or agreement via a referendum and; “territories occupied” and never withdrawn from or legally annexed, are still ‘occupied’.

October 19, 2009

Lying for Israel since 1948. The BIGGEST LIE!


UNGA res 181 is irrelevant, Israel’s borders have never been defined

Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, May 15, 1948
“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

Also bear this in mind. Israel has never legally annexed any territory outside it’s Declared Sovereign borders. Ever!

How many people on the planet believe the fallacy?
Prime Ministers, Senators, Presidents, politicians, civilians
and worst of all ISRAELI CITIZENS!!

Israeli citizens who have been led to believe they are living in Israel.
Israeli citizens in Ashkelon, Beer Sheeba.
Israeli citizens in a big chunk of territory bordering Lebanon.
Israeli citizens whose lives have been sacrificed for the Zionist dream of a Greater Israel.

How much longer can the world allow this fallacy to pollute the issue?
How much longer can the International Community turn a blind eye to this deceit?
How much longer will honest Israeli citizens allow themselves to be used by a corrupt, cabal of people who are willing break the very basic tenets of Judaism?

Enough is enough already!
Jewish folk were given, completely gratis**, a big chunk of land for a Sovereign homeland. Enough territory for every Jewish person on the planet today.
The extent of Israel’s Sovereignty had been declared & confirmed by the Israeli Government with the UNSC on May 22nd 1948 admitting to having territories “outside of Israel” It was further confirmed with the UNSC by the Israeli Government on June the 15th 1949
Instead of being grateful, Israel has taken more and more and more.
Illegally ‘acquired’ by war, illegally acquired through illegal annexation.
Illegally acquired through illegal settlements in “territories occupied” NOT belonging to Israel!
ILLEGALLY sold to those who are either complicit, or ignorant of what has and is still being done in the name of all the world’s Jewish population.

** ‘real estate’ is not territory.
The US paid Mexico for their territories.
How much did Israel pay?

September 28, 2009

The Ziofier strikes unsuspecting Presidents, politicians, journalists, public contamination at all an time high.

‘Israeli’s’ become ‘Jews’, ‘the regime’ becomes ‘Israel’. ‘Jerusalem’ becomes ‘Israel’, (even though it’s not even in Israel). Quite incredible. The Ziofier can make people become conflationists at the drop of a cliche.

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Even such luminaries as Edie Weisel are not immune from the dreaded Ziofier !

The Ziofier strikes across the board, rendering it’s victims unable to access important documents readily available to anyone with an internet connection.

If they have by chance actually ever read these documents, the Ziofier will immediately infiltrate that part of their memory bank and either wipe it completely or implant words with the opposite meaning. ‘delared’ becomes ‘covert’, ‘revealed’ becomes ‘hidden’ or ‘secret’. You can see the Ziofier at it’s best when it goes to work on UNSC Resolution 242 ‘acknowledgement of boundaries’ instantly becomes ‘negotiate borders’. Quite miraculous!!

The Ziofier is especially good with the UN Charter, UNSC resolutions, International Law, Geneva Conventions, the responsibilities of States, Declarations of Sovereignty, declared borders and the opinions of the International Court of Justice, wiping them completely off the map!

The Ziofier has altered 62 years of illegal acquisition of territory by war, illegal annexation, illegally instituting a foreign entity’s Civil Law in an Occupied Territory and the ignoring of 223 UNSC resolutions, into: “a peace loving neighbour”

The Ziofier has magically changed armistice lines into borders, where there were never borders before the armistice, altered the Balfour Declaration, the British White Papers of 1920 and 1939, UNSC Resolution 242.

During Cast Lead, the Ziofier was instantly able to change: the closure of all possible means of civilians escaping a war zone, into: “Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy’s civilian population from harm’s way” as ‘we attacked Gaza with some of the most modern and deadly military equipment in the world, not even allowing them to flee into the sea’.

The secret to the Ziofier’s success is it’s inbuilt fail-safe mechanism which immediately accuses people who might be immune, of being: Antisemites, Jew haters, Israel haters, self hating Jews, terrorist supporters.

The startling results of the Ziofier’s fail-safe mechanism can be seen in the veto vote being used in the UNSC, the press statements of Presidents, statesmen, senators, newspaper reporters, editors, TV anchormen, who all tremble in fear of the labels the Ziofier will instantly dish out.

Have YOU been Ziofied yet? Early symptoms include: Concern that people might think you’re an Antisemite, even if you’re not and there is no evidence that you are? Guarding every word, comma, full stop, upper casing of proper nouns, making sure that nothing you say can possibly be misconstrued, but knowing in the back of your mind that it will? Using anonymous email addresses where you normally wouldn’t because, although nothing you say or believe is in anyway Antisemitic, you know the lil’ ol’ Ziofier doesn’t dis-scriminate?

September 27, 2009

Propaganda, deception and blatant lies, from Israel, UK to the olde USA. ‘Journalism’ at it’s worst

First some background:

On Monday 21st September 2009, almost a year before required under the NPT agreement, Iran declares another small nuclear enrichment facility

General provisions Article 42 Pursuant to Article 8
design information in respect of existing facilities shall be provided to the Agency during the discussion of the Subsidiary Arrangements. The time limits for the provision of design information in respect of the new facilities shall be specified in the Subsidiary Arrangements and such information shall be provided as early as possible before nuclear material is introduced into a new facility.

This is precisely what Iran has just done.

IAEA’s Spokesman Marc Vidricaire:
said Friday, “I can confirm that on 21 September, Iran informed the IAEA in a letter that a new pilot fuel enrichment plant is under construction in the country.” In line with its guarantee to the IAEA for clarity on its nuclear activities, Iran informed the UN nuclear watchdog on 21 September that it is constructing a second plant for uranium enrichment.

Iran is willing to have its nuclear experts meet with scientists from the United States and other world powers as a confidence-building measure aimed at resolving concerns about Tehran’s nuclear program, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday.

Mohamed ElBaradei:
“They are not Fanatics” The director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency on what it’s like to negotiate with the Iranians. “They are not like the stereotyped fanatics bent on destroying everybody around them. They are not.”
Q) You focus on actual nuclear material. But the Americans have supplied the IAEA with the documents in question. The Iranians insist they are fake and refuse to talk about them. A) “A lot is in documents which we cannot share with the Iranians because of the need to protect sources and methods. Iran says, how can I tell you if it is fake or authentic if I am not getting a copy? So in many ways it’s like a merry-go-round.”

Any one with an internet connection CAN SEE IT on Google Earth
This is where we’re told it is Under a small hill.
But maybe it’s HERE Near an airstrip and maybe preparations for workers quarters
Or over HERE Also near the airstrip and possible preparations for workers quarters.

The first looks like a quarry. Nothing nearby. Under a small hill. Powell puke?

See how they deceive
A paragraph precedes the “quoted text” to give an impression, using words that are not actually in the “quoted text”
‘revealed’ ‘declared’ magically becomes ‘secret’ ‘clandestine’ ‘hidden’.

Deceptions bolded Comments green

TimesOnline Deception : West demands access to Iran’s secret underground nuclear site ‘declared’ as per the NPT agreement, becomes ‘secret’

President Obama, flanked by Gordon Brown and President Sarkozy of France at the G20 summit in Pittsburgh, called the hidden facility a direct challenge to international nuclear non-proliferation rules and demanded that Iran act immediately by agreeing to full international inspections of its nuclear facilities. ‘declared’ as per the NPT agreement, becomes ‘hidden’

Guardian Deception :Ian Black (Journalist)
Q&A: Iran’s secret nuclear plant Preempts ‘declared’ as per the NPT agreement, becomes ‘secret’ Ian Black has created a first impression before giving the answers

Q) What does the news of Iran’s secret nuclear plant mean?
A) It shows Iran has not been telling the truth about its nuclear activities. Under the NPT agreement, Iran is not required to declare facility until just prior to the introduction of nuclear materials. It has just COMPLIED!

Q) Why has it emerged now?
A) On the part of the US and its allies the revelation is exquisitely timed to coincide with today’s G20 summit..It was declared as per the NTP agreement on the 21st September It seems unlikely that a revelation of such importance would have been made without rigorous checking of sources. Like the IAEA 21st September US officials have been quoted as saying the plant is not completed but is designed to hold about 3,000 centrifuges, enough to manufacture about one bomb’s worth of material a year. The assertion, by the author, is NOT “quoted”

Q) How will this information have been obtained?
A) Intelligence on Iran is a top priority for the US, Britain and other western governments, and for Israel, which calls Iran’s nuclear ambitions an existential threat. Israeli claims have in the past been treated with scepticism, so any information it acquired would have to be corroborated. It is known that two years ago the US managed to penetrate Iranian computer systems. There is a broad consensus that Iran does intend to acquire at least the “breakout” capability to build a weapon. The existence of Natanz was a secret until it was revealed by an exiled Iranian opposition group in 2002. A) It was obtained from the IAEA after it was DECLARED to the IAEA on Monday 21st September. B) Natanz was also declared according to the requirements of the IAEA NPT agreement

Haaretz Deception : Barak Ravid (Journalist)
The prime minister’s message, which he made in telephone conversations, came a day after evidence of a clandestine Iranian nuclear facility was presented by U.S. President Barack Obama and the leaders of Britain and France at the G-20 economic summit in Pittsburgh. …… Evidence of the clandestine facility was unveiled Friday by Obama and the leaders of Britain and France at the G-20 economic summit in Pittsburgh, where it overshadowed developments on regulating financial markets and reducing fossil fuel subsidies. ‘declared’ becomes ‘clandestine’. It was declared on the Monday before Obama made the announcement

Haaretz Deception : Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman
said on Saturday that the newly exposed nuclear facility in Iran was built for military purposes and was proof that the Islamic Republic is seeking atomic weapons. “I spoke this weekend with experts from the East and West,” Lieberman told Israel Radio. “No one has any doubt, according to the technical data that was published, it’s a military core. The disagreement has been done away with.” ‘declared’ becomes ‘clandestine’ ‘according to the technical data ‘that was published’, refinement is within the guidelines of the NPT agreement’

Haaretz Deception : Natasha Mozgovaya (Journalist)
Medvedev said revelations that Iran has secretly been building a uranium-enrichment plant raised serious concerns, and demanded Tehran come to the table at an international meeting next week with a cooperative attitude and evidence of peaceful intentions. preempts what is said with un-quoted misdirection ‘revealed’ becomes ‘un-declared’ even though it has just been ‘revealed’ as required, (aka ‘declared’). “We are counting on Iran – particularly in light of the newly revealed information about the construction of a new enrichment plant – to provide convincing evidence of its intention to seek to develop nuclear energy with purely peaceful aims,” Medvedev said in the statement.

Medvedev said the undeclared construction of an enrichment facility flies in the face of UN Security Council demands for Iran to stop uranium enrichment at its only declared enrichment facility. He suggested the UN nuclear agency should take steps immediately to investigate the second site and called for Iran’s full cooperation with the probe. preempts what is said with un-quoted misdirection “The revelation about the construction of a second facility only strengthens our determination to achieve concrete and verifiable results in the years-long international efforts for clarity on Iran’s nuclear program and its goals,” Medvedev said.

China responded to news of the secret neactor(sic) by saying that they hope Iran “will cooperate with the IAEA on this matter.” ‘declared’ becomes ‘secret’

J Post Deception : The American Jewish Committee executive director David Harris
said in a statement. “The discovery of this second facility fits perfectly into the web of deceit which Iran has woven around its nuclear program. Let’s recall that the regime also tried to conceal the Natanz facility from the outside world. We are compelled to ask: What else are they hiding?” Natanz was declared BEFORE nuclear materials were introduced, in accordance with the NPT guidelines

And so it goes, over and over and over. They’re either oblivious, naive, ignorant, stupid or just incredibly bad writers. However, if they’re professional journalists, I every much doubt it, because they’re the very things journalists are taught to AVOID!

Which leaves very few options as to why they’d willing propagate such transparent bullshite. Coerced? Compromised? Getting kickbacks? Or perhaps they’re just blatant liars?

September 26, 2009

FREE DownLoad IAEA IRAN Non Proliferation Treaty Agreement. You too can be informed!

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HeRe or HEre or hERE or HERe or HERE



You can remain completely ignorant
and the propagandistas will love you
they will feed you shite and you won’t even know!

General provisions Article 42 Pursuant to Article 8
design information in respect of existing facilities shall be provided to the Agency during the discussion of the Subsidiary Arrangements. The time limits for the provision of design information in respect of the new facilities shall be specified in the Subsidiary Arrangements and such information shall be provided as early as possible before nuclear material is introduced into a new facility.

This is precisely what Iran has just done. Almost a year before required.

Further INFORMED and FACTUAL reading at Scott Ritter’s article on CiF

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