|64 years of refusing to see the elephant in the room, has led to some peculiar behaviour.
Instead of seeking a peaceful solution to the I/P conflict, Israel has taken more and more Palestinian territory and ignored more and more UNSC Resolutions. Never making any concessions involving its own territory, while falsely claiming generosity.
Offering the Palestinians parts of their own territory in order that Israel be able to keep Palestinian territory, is a completely bizarre concept of ‘concession/s’. Even more bizarre, that the Israeli Government encourages more and more illegal Jewish Israeli development in “territories occupied”, ignoring the GC’s and placing Israeli citizens in harms way, then claiming security as the reason for a brutal occupation under which Palestinians have lived their entire lives.
The bullsh*te spouted on behalf of Israel at official levels is incredible. Take ‘defensible borders’. I defy anyone to find the words ‘defensible borders’ in any International Law, any UNSC resolution or any Convention. The words simply do not exist. They do not exist for a very simple reason. No state has more right to defensible borders than its neighbours.
After being given the territory for a Jewish homeland state. Israel had no right to then illegally acquire by war and attempt to illegally annex or settle any of the territory set aside for an Arab State. It wasn’t a part of the deal the Jewish People’s Council agreed to in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel.
Putting lipstick on the pig is not the answer. End the occupation. Get out of Palestine. There’s room enough in Israel for every Jewish person on the planet today.
|No one has anything of Israel’s. If you take other folks territory, they’re not going to like it or you and they’re very likely to fight back. Even with the rocks that were once their homes.
Israel claims it has made generous concessions, but the only concessions that have been made are by the Palestinians. Forgoing their rightful territories under the Laws and UN Charter Israel agreed to uphold.
In an incredibly generous gesture towards peace, the PA has already conceded territory acquired by war by Israel in 1948/49. None of which has ever been legally annexed to Israel.
The ramifications of Israel’s lipstick policies for the last 62 years will be felt for decades, even with a peace agreement or Palestinian Statehood within the 1967 ‘borders’
June 20, 2012
Israel uses secret weapon to solve the Israeli / Palestinian conflict. Israel grants massive concessions in 2012
June 19, 2012
The Hasbara = Israeli propaganda. What gives Israel the right to have more defensible borders than its neighbours?
Did you know Israel has never been invaded by any state or non state entity and that no one has ever taken any Israeli territory?
That Israel has illegally acquired by war over 50% of the territory slated for the Arab state, non of which has ever been legally annexed?
Yet how many times have you read Israel’s demand for “defensible borders”?
Question: What gives Israel the right to have more defensible borders than its neighbours?
Israel is a UN Member State.
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
It’s really quite simple… Israel has no more right to defensible borders than its neighbours. The phrase does not appear in any International Law, the UN Charter or any convention. It’s Hasbara. Twaddle.
Like the Israeli demand for Palestinian recognition of the Jewish State, Israel’s demand for more secure borders has absolutely no basis in law.
Thx Mike @ occupy911truth
June 18, 2012
The Hasbara. Another blatant Israeli lie: “Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy’s civilian population from harm’s way.”
“It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons
than to put a single innocent one to death.”
The Leader of the Jewish State made a speech at the UN General Assembly 24th September 2009 stating: “Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy’s civilian population from harm’s way.”
Despite issuing warnings, the State of Israel had all means of escaping the violence of war closed, under the 2005 agreement with Egypt, thereby preventing civilians from fleeing a war zone.
If the State of Israel doesn’t adhere to even the most basic tenets of Judaism, why call it the Jewish State?
Geneva Convention 1V Section II Occupied territories Art49 The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.
Not even the mercy of fleeing by boat after being driven into the sea. Israel controls all Palestinian territorial waters off Gaza’s coast.
If the Jewish State doesn’t adhere to the Customary Laws of War, why is it in the UN?
Think about the warnings, if you dare. We’re expected to believe only civilians are going to read the leaflets or listen to the warnings? Does that really make sense? Like all Hasbara, it simply does not add up.
“Hey Mahmoud, what do you think you’re doing? You can’t read that, it’s for civilians only ………….. pssst….. what does it say?”
“It says civilians only should flee the war zone to… to… uh… to… oh, some other part of the war zone, because one of the most modern equipped militaries in the world with their tanks, artillery, fighter bombers, missiles, fletchettes, cluster bombs, white phosphorus, infantry and billions of loverly dollars of US military aid, is coming to get us”
“Uh huh. Nice of them to give everyone warning”
“But they’re only warning civilians”
“Too late now, we’ve read th’ leaflet”
“We could pretend we haven’t
Well, doesn’t that sort of screw their plan?”
“Not if you’re an Israeli propagandist pretending to be concerned about civilian casualties.”
“Ah. I see….So…..how much time have we got?”
“A few hours”
“OK…. hand me another one of them rickety olde home made rockets. Maybe we can hit something other than sand before we get outta here!”
“Right…. Uh… when you say … “get outta here” … er … th’ crossings are all closed, there’s only here to go unless we swim out to sea “
“They control that too! Not even being driven into th’ sea for these lil’ semites.”
June 16, 2012
What is meant by “the Land of Israel” today? The Hasbara, stupid propaganda for people who don’t check
How many times have you heard the expression “the Land of Israel” referring to Israel today?
They’re weasel words, without any meaning in the eyes of the Laws and UN Charter Israel obliged itself to uphold.
Israel was “… proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″ … to … ” become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time” It was recognized as such by the USA within minutes.
Put quite simply, the “Land of Israel” is territory sovereign to the State of Israel. The acquisition of territory by war is illegal and; as Israel has never legally annexed any territory, the “Land of Israel” is the same as it was when Israel was recognized as the Jewish people’s homeland state in 1948. I.e., before being admitted to the UN and before Israel officially claimed on the 31st Aug 1949, territory it had previously stated was “outside the State of Israel”. A claim that was rebuffed.
June 10, 2012
How many times have you read accusations like “Under Jordan’s illegal occupation Jews were prevented access to holy places for 19 years”
Let’s first dispense with the silly “Jordan’s illegal occupation” theory. Under the Israel Jordan Armistice Agreement of 1949, Israel AGREED to Jordan being the Occupying Power over the territories subsequently renamed the West Bank. Jordan agreed to Israel being the Occupying Power over territories under Israeli military control.
1. It is agreed that the forces of the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom shall replace the forces of Iraq in the sector now held by the latter forces, the intention of the Government of Iraq in this regard having been communicated to the Acting Mediator in the message of 20 March from the Foreign Minister of Iraq authorizing the delegation of the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom to negotiate for the Iraqi forces and stating that those forces would be withdrawn.
2. It is also recognized that no provision of this Agreement shall in any way prejudice the rights, claims and positions of either Party hereto in the ultimate peaceful settlement of the Palestine question, the provisions of this Agreement being dictated exclusively by military considerations.
Exactly how was it illegal?
The claim it was Jordan prevented Jews access to holy places for 19 years is also a fallacy. They prevented Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs! In fact, under the Armistice Agreement it was prohibited for citizens of either opposing state to cross the Armistice Demarcation lines.
3. Rules and regulations of the armed forces of the Parties, which prohibit civilians from crossing the fighting lines or entering the area between the lines, shall remain in effect after the signing of this Agreement with application to the Armistice Demarcation Lines defined in articles V and VI.
It is NORMAL for states to restrict the movements of citizens of respective hostile countries and even their own citizens originally from hostile states, curtailing and/or prohibiting their ability to conduct business, buy land etc. Japanese, Germans, Italians, were interned and/or deported by the UK, USA, Australia, during WWII and their assets were frozen. Unless they have opted to take up citizenship in a country other than that of return, thereby losing their refugee status, it is also normal to release and/or allow their return and to unfreeze their assets .
The Israel’s 1948 Emergency Regulations (Foreign Travel) Ordinance still current, prevents Israeli citizens or residents from entering the territory of any entity deemed to be hostile under Israeli law. The Jordanian controlled West Bank was such a hostile entity from 1948 til 1967. So too was Gaza, under Egyptian control.
From 1948 til 1967, Israeli Emergency Regulations prevented citizens and residents, Jews, Christians and Muslims, from worshiping in territories under the military control of Jordan. Naturally Jordan and Egypt did likewise. It is normal behaviour for hostile states.
So what is the point of this Hasbara morsel? How exactly does it effect the legal status of Israel’s Sovereign extent on which UNSC resolutions are based?
Fact is, it doesn’t. It’s just propaganda. Like the claims made about Mark Twain, it is of perhaps historical interest. It has no legal bearing what so ever.
June 4, 2012
Land for Peace Israeli propaganda – The fallacy of Israel’s Land for Peace rhetoric – Read the Israel / Egypt Peace Agreement
How many times have you heard the phrase “Land For Peace”?
Or perhaps “UNSC Resolution 242 said borders must be negotiated”?
The Israel / Egypt Peace Treaty tells us three major points that contradict Israel’s stupid propaganda.
A) The purpose of UNSC Res 242 was to end hostilities between already existing UN Member states, resulting in peace agreements between those states.
B) Withdrawal by Israel from Egyptian territories was to begin BEFORE peaceful relations were assumed
C) No borders were negotiated. Egypt’s borders were set when it became an independent state, BEFORE Israel was declared.
From the Peace Treaty:
1. In order to provide maximum security for both Parties after the final withdrawal, the lines and the Zones delineated on Map 1 are to be established and organized as follows:
…until Israeli armed forces complete withdrawal from the current J and M Lines established by the Egyptian-Israeli Agreement of September 1975, hereinafter referred to as the 1975 Agreement, up to the interim withdrawal line, all military arrangements existing under that Agreement will remain in effect, except those military arrangements otherwise provided for in this Appendix.
Within a period of seven days after Israeli armed forces have evacuated any area located in Zone A…..
Within a period of seven days after Israeli armed forces have evacuated any area located in Zones A or B…
The Parties agree to remove all discriminatory barriers to normal economic relations and to terminate economic boycotts of each other upon completion of the interim withdrawal.
As soon as possible, and not later than six months after the completion of the interim withdrawal, the Parties will enter negotiations with a view to concluding an agreement on trade and commerce for the purpose of promoting beneficial economic relations.
1. The Parties agree to establish normal cultural relations following completion of the interim withdrawal.
2. They agree on the desirability of cultural exchanges in all fields, and shall, as soon as possible and not later than six months after completion of the interim withdrawal, enter into negotiations with a view to concluding a cultural agreement for this purpose.
Upon completion of the interim withdrawal, each Party will permit the free movement of the nationals and vehicles of the other into and within its territory ….etc etc
Again, from the Israeli Government:
Dear Mr. President,
I am pleased to be able to confirm that the Government of Israel is agreeable to the procedure set out in your letter of March 26, 1979, in which you state:
“I have received a letter from President Sadat that, within one month after Israel completes its withdrawal to the interim line in Sinai, as provided for in the Treaty of peace between Egypt and Israel, Egypt will send a resident ambassador to Israel and will receive in Egypt a resident Israeli ambassador.”
From the Peace Treaty:
Convinced of the urgent necessity of the establishment of a just, comprehensive and lasting peace in the Middle East in accordance with Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338;
Israel was left as the Occupying Power over Palestinian territories captured during the ‘recent conflict’ (1967) and; territories occupied by Israel in 1948/49, not recognized as Israeli by any country and never legally annexed to Israel.