First, find out what isn't true…

October 11, 2015

Israeli Defense Forces story does not add up again


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From Haaretz Oct 11, 2015 7:32 AM

On Saturday, an Iron Dome defense system intercepted a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip toward southern Israel’s Hof Ashkelon Regional Council. In response, the Israel Defense Forces attacked what they said were two Hamas weapons manufacturing sites in north Gaza.

If they knew they were weapons manufacturing sites, why didn’t they attack them BEFORE? Why wait until a rocket is fired?

October 7, 2015

Hadeel al-Hashlamoun – the Israeli Defense Forces story does not add up


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On September 22 2015: 18 year old Palestinian Hadeel al-Hashlamoun was shot to death at a Hebron checkpoint by Israeli soldiers.

Justified?
You decide!

The IDF claim she was coming at them with a knife.
But after having been shot in both legs and falling to the ground,
she somehow miraculously made it back thru the barrier to the opposite side,
where she was again shot some five or six times at close range, in the torso.

In fact, she was laying on the opposite side of the barrier when, while she was still alive, dis-armed and helpless, they dragged her by the feet thru the dirt, under the barricade, to the IDF side.

In this photo, we see the rubbish bin has been moved to the opposite side of the supporting uprights.

Sure we see the alleged knife, however, they’ve already dragged a girl, still alive, under the barricade to the IDF side, then shot her and the evidence has already been tampered with by moving the bin. Why would anyone choose to believe anything they say without their being definitive evidence?

An account by Marcel Leme, International Human Rights Observer

Did they think she was a suicide bomber? Very doubtful. Suicide vests are exploded by the release of the trigger and they had already shot her AND dragged her by the feet through the dirt to the IDF side of the barrier and;
Only a complete moron would shoot a person at close range if they though that person was wearing explosives. Furthermore she was shot in the torso, where the explosives of a suicide belt would be!

It simply does not make sense.

October 1, 2015

One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind


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One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind

The raising of the flag of the STATE OF PALESTINE!

http://webtv.un.org/watch/raising-of-the-palestinian-flag-at-the-united-nations/4521239871001

UN speech by Mahmoud Abbas

http://webtv.un.org/watch/palestine-general-debate-70th-session/4521133284001

August 15, 2015

Israeli propaganda depends on you not checking!


How many times have you read the Jordanian occupation and annexation of the West Bank was illegal
Or perhaps the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank was illegal, only two countries recognized it
Or perhaps Geneva Convention IV is not applicable to the West Bank/Israeli settlements

Have you ever checked or thought about these notions?

1) Illegal occupation. Israel signed an Armistice Agreement with Jordan. If the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank was illegal, where does that leave Israel’s May 22nd 1948 self admitted occupation of territories “outside the State of Israel”?

2) Illegal annexation. Unlike the unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem by Israel, not recognized by anyone, condemned by the UNSC with at least eight reminders affording Israel the opportunity to abide by the binding Law, the UN Charter and relevant conventions re-affirmed and emphasized in those resolutions, Jordan’s bilateral annexation of what became known as the West Bank was by agreement with the occupied.

Although at the time Jordan was not a UN Member state, this was in keeping with the UN Charter on self determination. Furthermore and contrary to the Israeli notion that it was condemned by the Arab states, they in fact demanded of Jordan that the annexation be as a trustee only (Session: 12-II Date: May 1950), again in keeping with the UN Charter Chapt XI as a “sacred trust”

3) Recognition of annexed territories. A) The legality of annexation is not dependent on recognition. It is dependent on self determination per the UN Charter (ibid). B) if we take the Israeli propaganda claiming illegality because only two or three countries recognized the Jordanian annexation, where does it leave the legality of Israel’s unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem, recognized by no one?

The Jordanian annexation was recognized by the US BTW

“…it was not the custom of this country to issue formal statements of recognition every time a foreign country changed its territorial area. The union of Arab Palestine and Jordan had been brought about as a result of the will of the people and the US accepted the fact that Jordanian sovereignty had been extended to the new area. Mr. Iiifai said he had not realized this and that he was very pleased to learn that the US did in fact recognize the union” United States Department of State / Foreign relations of the United States, 1950. The Near East, South Asia, and Africa (1950) Page 921

4) GC IV. Israeli propaganda claims it is not applicable to the West Bank/Israeli settlements because the West Bank was not a High Contracting Power. However, in 1967 the West Bank was under the sovereignty of Jordan, who at the time was a UN Member State and a High Contracting Power.

One only needs to scratch the surface. The Israeli narrative is bullsh*t!

December 15, 2014

More theft by Israel. Not showing Jewish values!


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Palestinian maritime borders From Haaretz – By Eran Azran and Reuters 22:09 14.12.14

A new natural gas field off Israel’s Mediterranean coast may hold about 3.2 trillion cubic feet of gas, about one third the size of the giant Tamar field, its two Israeli partners said Sunday after conducting a 3D seismic survey of the area.

If the estimate is accurate, reserves for the Royee prospect, located about 150 kilometers (93 miles) offshore Israel and close to its maritime borders with Cyprus and Egypt, would be the third-largest discovered in Israeli waters and the fourth-largest in the Mediterranean Basin, said Israel Opportunity, a partner in the group.

Problem … Under which official agreement did Israel legally acquire the territories “outside the State of Israel” … “in Palestine”?

Fact is, there is no such agreement and;
the acquisition of territory by war was illegal by 1933 under the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, adopted into the UN Charter 1945, International Law when Israel’s boundaries were proclaimed and recognized!

Put simply, Israel’s maritime borders with Egypt are not as claimed

Israel’s Mediterranean coastline extends only as far South as Ashdod and North as far as Acre!

Map of Palestinian territory never legally annexed to Israel

November 10, 2014

The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal settlements before 1967 – Israel vs Palestine


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The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal Israeli settlers before 1967?

The following are not an unfounded accusations. The information is not from propaganda sites. They’re the official words of the Provisional Israeli Government 1948 as recorded by the UNSC and the Israeli Government web site and the opinion of the International Court of Justice and the Laws of War and some of the States who recognized Israel. You decide.

Israel’s legal sovereign extent was defined by the Provisional Government of the State of Israel in its plea for recognition and it was immediately recognized as such while at war outside the territory of the State of Israel .. in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel [1]

May 15, 1948

Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

Samples of the recognition of Israel:

USA 15 May 1948 “… as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947…”

Russia 17 May 1948
Letter from Mr. Molotov stated: “Confirming receipt of your telegram of May 16, in which you inform the Government of the USSR of the proclamation, on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947, of the creation in Palestine of the independent State of Israel and make re-quest for the recognition of the State of Israel and its provisional government by the USSR. I inform yon in this letter that the Govern-ment of the USSR has decided to recognize officially the Stale of Israel and its Provisional Government.”

British 27 April 1950
“His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.” (Thus far nothing has replaced them)

Australia 28 January 1949 “… on the basis of the resolution of the United Nations Assembly of November 29, 1947…”

May 22nd 1948 Israeli Government statement

On May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 the Provisional Government of Israel answered questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations.

Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

"In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed." ... " the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel"

“international regulations” at the time say;

Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
"Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."

Further to which as recently as 2004

9th July 2004 International Court of Justice the Court refers to the provisions of the Hague Regulation of 1907, which have become part of customary law, as well as the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 1949, applicable in those Palestinian territories which before the armed conflict of 1967 lay to the east of the 1949 Armistice demarcation line (or “Green Line”) and were occupied by Israel during that conflict

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3 Jun 1948 in the Knesset

Report to the Provisional Government of Israel by Prime Minister and Minister of Defence Ben-Gurion 3 Jun 1948
"The entire expanse of the State of Israel allocated to us under the terms of the UN resolution is in our hands, and we have conquered several important districts outside those boundaries".
and;
"To the greatest possible extent, we will remain constantly on the offensive, which will not be confined to the borders of the Jewish State".

12 Aug 1948

the Provisional Israeli Government proclaimed Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

Occupation can actually be dated from May 22nd 1948.

None of these areas have ever been legally annexed to Israel. See HERE for the possible legal repercussions of this situation and HERE for the possible ramifications for Israeli citizens.

HERE for up to date information on all illegal settlements from peacenow.org

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territory acquired by war by Israel and never legally annexed.  Israel has illegally acquired about 50% of the Palestinians rightful territories.
BIG detailed Google Earth overlay

Includes the UNGA text.
Load the kmz file into Google Earth
then use the properties in the left hand column
to vary the transparency
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Map also available from Wikimedia

May 30, 2014

Palestinians continue to die in their own country at the hands of the Occupying Power


15th May 1948 Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.” Israel has never legally acquired any further territory!

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An analysis of some of the information available relating to the deaths of Nadim Nuwara and Mohammad Abu Thaher in Beitunia on May 15th 2014 in the occupied State of Palestine


“He fell forward. A bullet would have knocked him away from the fire, he should have fallen back…” Bullsh*t! A rabbit isn’t even knocked away from the fire of a .22 bullet

The Palestinians ask for their legal rights under the Laws and UN Charter Israel agreed to uphold.

Meanwhile, “Israel, the Occupying Power” makes demands that have no legal basis what so ever. Read UNSC res 476, one of EIGHT reminders to Israel of its legal obligations and giving Israel the OPPORTUNITY to adhere to the law. Unfortunately the Jewish state has failed to live up to the promises it made when it was proclaimed and when it became a UN Member state.

September 27, 2013

Netanyahu CONvincing the world at the UN 2013


netanyahu UN 2013 settlers guns

netanyahu Hasbarrow 02

netanyahu UN 2013 01

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May 24, 2013

Kerry and the Question of Palestine. In perspective


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Kerry and the Question of Palestine.

In perspective

kerry is just another us politician

kerry is just another us politician

UNSC res 252 has EIGHT reminders…. Does Kerry really think they care?

May 10, 2013

The three No’s of Khartoum – no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel


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The three no’s of the khartoum conference. “no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel”

Right, wrong? Just, unjust? Reasonable? Biased? Antisemitic? Most importantly, what were the conditions that prompted the Arab states to adopt this stance?

2. The conference has agreed on the need to consolidate all efforts to eliminate the effects of the aggression on the basis that the occupied lands are Arab lands and that the burden of regaining these lands falls on all the Arab States.

3. The Arab Heads of State have agreed to unite their political efforts at the international and diplomatic level to eliminate the effects of the aggression and to ensure the withdrawal of the aggressive Israeli forces from the Arab lands which have been occupied since the aggression of June 5. This will be done within the framework of the main principles by which the Arab States abide, namely, no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it, and insistence on the rights of the Palestinian people in their own country.

This is simply a reflection of UNSC res 476 1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

No peace with Israel: While territory sovereign to Egypt was under Israeli occupation the two states were technically at war. In the eventual Egypt Israel Peace Treaty Israel was first required and agreed to begin withdrawal before peaceful relations were assumed.

No recognition of Israel: There is no legal basis for demanding recognition.

A) States plead for recognition

B) ” ..in the view of the United States, International Law does not require a state to recognize another state; it is a matter for the judgment of each state whether an entity merits recognition as a state. In reaching this judgment, the United States has traditionally looked of the establishment of certain facts. The United States has also taken into account whether the entity in question has attracted the recognition of the International community of states.” There are numerous UN Member states who do not recognize other UN Member States.

All states are never the less required to show “respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force”. This is reflected in UNSC res 242.

No negotiations: Israel is in breach of numerous UNSC resolutions, International Law, the UN Charter, relative conventions. There is no legal requirement for negotiations. For example the words ‘negotiate’, ‘negotiations’ do not appear in UNSC res242 on which the Egypt Israel Peace Treaty is based. Israel was and still is required to adhere to the law, negotiations or not. Egypt and Jordan were correct in refusing negotiations while Israel was in breach of its legal obligations in respect to their sovereign territory.

The signing of a negotiated peace treaty between Egypt and Israel was by default an act of recognition and; after Israeli withdrawal peaceful relations were assumed. Likewise with Jordan. Both are examples of what UNSC res 242 was formulated to achieve. The end of hostilities between UN Member States.

However, while Israel occupies non-Israeli territories in Palestine, the Golan Heights, Shebaa Farms, the Alghajar village UNSC res 425 and UNSC res 426, Israel is technically at war and those states have a right to “restore” sovereignty over their territories. Professor Stephen M. Schwebel / Elihu Lauterpacht

The Palestinians meanwhile are under no legal obligation to sign a peace agreement with an Occupying Power, to recognize an Occupying Power or to negotiate with an Occupying Power. Negotiations mean only one thing, the Palestinians forgoing some of their legal rights so that Israel may keep non-Israeli territory illegally acquired by war, illegally annexed and illegally settled by Israel since 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time)

March 28, 2013

Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran? It’s irrelevant to the International Law


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Propagandists trying to justify Israel’s illegal acquisition of non-Israeli territory are so stupid they beggar belief

Their narrative goes something like this: “Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran”

So what? It is entirely irrelevant to the Internationally recognized sovereign extent of the State of Israel and Israel’s responsibilities & illegal activities as the Occupying Power over non-Israeli territories.

Never the less …

The Quran is written in Arabic. Jerusalem translated to Arabic is القدس. The word “القدس” appears in 4 verses in Quran

I’ve been shown to be incorrect. Edited accordingly

March 27, 2013

The wholly holey olde Hasbara – Palestine vs Israel the I/P conflict – Israeli propaganda is really weird


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The wholly holey olde Hasbara, is really weird

The Israeli narrative goes something like this: “The international court only gave an advisory opinion, not a binding legal decision” Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Request for advisory opinion)

Quite true and the court’s advisory opinion was that had they been asked to make a legal decision, binding law would not fall in Israel’s favour!

Only an idiot would proudly hold up the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice pointing to the illegality of Israel’s actions… while claiming it as some kind of evidence in one’s favour…

It’s

really

twisted.

A state which according to the UNSC is in breach of laws, the UN Charter and relative conventions adopted at the end of WWII in large part because of the treatment of Jewish folk under the Nazis is in respect to those laws behaving no better than the Nazis. That some folk seem to be as oblivious as the German population of their state’s crimes, should be ringing alarm bells.

It’s

really

twisted.

March 23, 2013

Israeli propagandists and the wholly holey moldy olde Hasbara


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Dedicated to those Israeli propagandistas who, when asked to provide evidence of their claims, simply can’t … or when they try, they show just the opposite

Waiting for the Israeli propagandist Take the Mandate for Palestine.
The propagandist narrative goes like this. “Under the British Mandate Jews have a right to settle anywhere in Palestine”” the British Mandate still applies”

However the Mandate for Palestine (the correct title), doesn’t say there should be a Jewish ‘state’. Article 7 Jewish immigrants could get “Palestinian” citizenship.

Furthermore, the Israeli Government web page on the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, tells us the Mandate “expired” on the night of May 14th 1948 (ME time)

On the May 15th 1948 the Israeli Government’s request for recognition stated:

“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

A declaration of Independent Statehood as envisaged by UNGA res 181 which is enshrined in the Jewish People’s Council Declaration, could not have come into effect if any of that state’s territories were under the authority of another power. One must be ‘independent’ to declare independence. The British administration of Palestine had to end.

However, by 00:01 May 15th 1948 and before 1 October 1948 Jewish forces were already occupying territory in what remained of Palestine, none of which has ever been legally annexed to Israel. Including Jerusalem.

64 years on Israel is still preventing an Independent Palestinian State

March 22, 2013

Israel vs Palestine. The Hasbara. There’s something odd about this alleged rocket attack during Obama’s visit to Israel

Filed under: Israel & the Palestinians — Tags: , , , , , , — talknic @ 2:04 pm

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There’s something odd about the alleged rocket attack during Obama’s visit to Israel

There’s the obvious:
A nine minute commentary on steroids
Pres Obama was 40 miles away
The insanely stupid speculation on the Palestinian intention in respect to Obama’s visit (reporters’ speculations are not news).
Plus the additional footage of explosions, that had nothing to do with the incident.

Then there’s the obvious:
The explosion was enough to almost entirely disintegrate a steel rocket casing, yet the chair is completely unscathed. The damage to the wall is quite minor and;
the steel shutter shows no signs of damage and;
there’s no mention of Iron Dome
… wasn’t it turned on?

Tue 5th Jan 2015 – Now the video has been removed …

The cease fire had already been broken BTW. Within days of signing it, Israel was killing Palestinian civilians and militants on the Gaza side of the Armistice Demarcation Line

June 20, 2012

Israel uses secret weapon to solve the Israeli / Palestinian conflict. Israel grants massive concessions in 2012


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64 years of refusing to see the elephant in the room, has led to some peculiar behaviour.

Instead of seeking a peaceful solution to the I/P conflict, Israel has taken more and more Palestinian territory and ignored more and more UNSC Resolutions. Never making any concessions involving its own territory, while falsely claiming generosity.

Offering the Palestinians parts of their own territory in order that Israel be able to keep Palestinian territory, is a completely bizarre concept of ‘concession/s’. Even more bizarre, that the Israeli Government encourages more and more illegal Jewish Israeli development in “territories occupied”, ignoring the GC’s and placing Israeli citizens in harms way, then claiming security as the reason for a brutal occupation under which Palestinians have lived their entire lives.

The bullsh*te spouted on behalf of Israel at official levels is incredible. Take ‘defensible borders’. I defy anyone to find the words ‘defensible borders’ in any International Law, any UNSC resolution or any Convention. The words simply do not exist. They do not exist for a very simple reason. No state has more right to defensible borders than its neighbours.

After being given the territory for a Jewish homeland state. Israel had no right to then illegally acquire by war and attempt to illegally annex or settle any of the territory set aside for an Arab State. It wasn’t a part of the deal the Jewish People’s Council agreed to in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel.

Putting lipstick on the pig is not the answer. End the occupation. Get out of Palestine. There’s room enough in Israel for every Jewish person on the planet today.

No one has anything of Israel’s. If you take other folks territory, they’re not going to like it or you and they’re very likely to fight back. Even with the rocks that were once their homes.

Israel claims it has made generous concessions, but the only concessions that have been made are by the Palestinians. Forgoing their rightful territories under the Laws and UN Charter Israel agreed to uphold.

In an incredibly generous gesture towards peace, the PA has already conceded territory acquired by war by Israel in 1948/49. None of which has ever been legally annexed to Israel.

The ramifications of Israel’s lipstick policies for the last 62 years will be felt for decades, even with a peace agreement or Palestinian Statehood within the 1967 ‘borders’

August 30, 2011

Google Earth Overlay Israel Palestine, Google Earth Overlay of Israeli borders, Israel borders overlay for Google Earth, Map of Israel Google Earth


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It’s simple. Territory confirmed by the Government of Israel on the 22nd May 1948 as “outside of the state of Israel”, is not Israeli

BIG detailed Google Earth Overlay
of Israel’s borders and;
by default, what is not Israeli.
Google Earth Overlay Israel Palestine, Google Earth Overlay of Israeli borders, Israel borders overlay for Google Earth
Includes the UNGA text.
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then use the properties in the left hand column
to vary the transparency
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Israel did not define its borders in 1948 = a ghastly LIE!

Israeli Government statement made on the 22nd May 1948 to the UNSC AFTER declaring, AFTER being recognized :

"the above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard"

"the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel"

"sallies beyond the frontiers of the State"

"the above operations in areas outside the State of Israel"

"No area outside of Palestine is under Jewish occupation but sallies beyond the frontiers of the State of Israel have occasionally been carried out by Jewish forces for imperative military reasons, and as a part of an essentially defensive plan"

The document shows us that:
A) Israel did have borders, acknowledged by the Israeli Government in 1948
B) It acknowledges two separate entities. The State of Israel and Palestine (outside the territories of the State of Israel)
C) It acknowledges that Israeli forces were operating in Palestinian territory, i.e., what remained of Palestine outside of Israel
D) It acknowledges territories under Israeli military control. Which meant they were occupied according to the “international regulations” at the time, the Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III

OTHER MAPS
Large copy of the map used in Google Earth

Other Maps relating to the Israeli Palestine conflict. Areas never legally annexed by Israel.

Palestine pre – 1900
Maps from the Jewish National and University Library

Map of Mark Twain’s journey Through predominantly arid regions, in the middle of summer. Includes quotations from Twain’s ‘Innocents Abroad’ and other authors pre-dating Twain

February 8, 2011

Palestine. A country, a state? Mandate period treaty documents between Palestine and Great Britain, Ireland, Iraq, Syria, TransJordan, Turkey, Egypt seem to confirm that it was.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, it’s a territory of Palestine…

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League of Nations Mandate for Palestine:
The Council of the League of Nations “Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; “
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace%20Process/Guide%20to%20the%20Peace%20Process/The%20Mandate%20for%20Palestine

League of Nations Convenant: Article 22. Part I. (4th paragraph)
“Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.”
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp#art22

League of Nations 30 November 1937 C.495.M.336.1937.VI. Geneva, November 30th, 1937

Chapter X. – Conclusion
” It means that the Arabs must acquiesce in the exclusion from their sovereignty of a piece of territory, long occupied and once ruled by them.”

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Additional research from Michael

Prior to the Mandate – Great Britain, Ireland and Palestine:
“Article 2. The Money Order Service between the contracting countries shall be performed exclusively by the agency of Offices of Exchange.
Article 7. Duplicate Orders shall be issued only by the Postal Administration of the country of payment and in conformity with the regulations established or to be established in that country.
Article 8. When it is desired that an error in the name of the payee shall be corrected, or that the amount of a Money Order shall be repaid to the remitter, application must be made by the remitter to the Chief Office of the country in which the Order was issued.
Article 9. Repayment of an Order shall not, in any case, be made until it has been ascertained, through the Chief Office of the country where such Order is payable, that the Order has not been paid and that the said Office authorizes the repayment.
Article 10. Orders shall remain payable in each country for twelve months after the expiration of the month of issue ; and the amounts of all Money Orders not paid within that period shall revert to and remain the property of the Administration of the country of issue.”

Click to access 144.pdf

Iraq, Syria, TransJordan, Turkey and Palestine:
“Article I. The High Contracting Parties undertake to créât and maintain an ” International Office
for Information regarding Locusts “. Its seat shall be at Damascus, and its expenses shall be defrayed by the Contracting Parties in equal shares.
Article II. The Office shall operate under the authority and control of a Committee composed of delegates of the Contracting States.
Article III. The expenses of setting up the office and the annual expenses of running it shall be supported by the Contracting States according to the conditions laid down by the Organic Statute mentioned in Article II.
Article IV. The contributions of each of the Contracting States shall be paid in through the intermediary of the High Commissariat of the French Republic in the States of Syria to the Bank of Syria and Lebanon at Damascus, whence the money shall be withdrawn, as need arises, on the order of the Director of the Office. Each of the Contracting States shall make its first annual payment within three months from the date when this Agreement is approved by their respective Governments.”

https://iea.uoregon.edu/treaty-text/1926-internationalofficeinformationregardinglocustsentxt

International Commerce Agreement with Egypt and Palestine:
“The Egyptian Government therefore agrees, on the basis of complete reciprocity, to grant most-favoured-nation treatment to products of the soil and of industry originating in Palestine and imported into Egyptian territory for consumption, re-exportation or transit.”
https://iea.uoregon.edu/treaty-text/1926-internationalofficeinformationregardinglocustsentxt

December 27, 2010

Israel vs Palestine. The fallacy of defensible borders. UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
it’s a territory of Palestine…

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UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’

LOGIC: No matter how much of other folk’s territory an entity acquires for ‘defensible’ borders, it will still be next to the people whose territory it is acquiring.

QUESTION: Why has one entity in any region the right to have more ‘defensible’ borders than any other entity in the region?

Fact is, it hasn’t. UN Charter Article 2
“The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.”

If Palestine is recognized by a 2/3rds majority of UN Member States, game over for Deuteronomy 20:15. Game over for being an Occupying Power over what will legally be recognized as a “Regional Power”. There is no requirement that they be powerful, nor do they have to be a UN Member State.

Of course defensible borders are a military advantage, however, the Jewish People’s Council accepted and declared boundaries “within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947”, which did not include territories already under the control of Jewish forces at the time of declaration.

They did not include the territories Israel confirmed were not it’s own on May 22 1948

They did not include the territories Israel attempted to claim on 31st August 1949

They did not include the territories Israel has ‘acquired’ by war, or illegal annexation, or illegal settlement, since declaration. None of which has been legally annexed.

QUESTION: If the territory is genuinely acquired for military purposes, aka, defense, why is it being populated with …. ahem….Israeli civilians?

The Laws of War and GC’s are there to protect ALL civilians, especially NOT having the Occupying Power’s civilians in occupied territories for the simple reason that the occupied have a right to armed resistance in which the Occupying Power’s civilians might become collateral statistics The Occupying Power has a duty to it’s civilians to ensure they are NOT in territories acquired by war, in order to safeguard them. Israel in fact endangers it’s citizens by encouraging and assisting them to settle in occupied territories!

QUESTION In order for an entity to defend it’s civilians illegally in illegally ‘acquired’ territories, from those whose territories it has illegally acquired, is it logical for Israel to further incur their wrath by attempting to acquire even more of their territory to protect the territory you have already illegally ‘acquired’?

The answer is of course, no. Consecutive Israeli Governments have been more than irresponsible, they have been incredibly … STUPID!!

December 16, 2010

Israel has no fixed borders? On May 22 1948 Israel confirmed it’s borders in a letter to the UNSC. The Hasbara does not explain, it justifies the usurping of the Palestinians


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the actual Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then by default it is the territory of what remained of Palestine on May 15th 1948. Non-self Governing Territories fall under the protection of the UN Charter Chapt XI…

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How many times have you heard the notion that Israel has no borders with Palestine? According to the Provisional Israeli Government’s May 15th 1948 plea for recognition, the State of Israel was declared

“within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947,”

Israel was immediately recognized as such by the US followed by Russia and; recognized as such by the majority of the International Community of Nations before being accepted into the UN and; the extent of Israel’s sovereignty was confirmed by the Israeli Government in a statement to the UNSC on 22nd May 1948, before Israel was accepted into the UN as declared and recognized, before the Armistice Agreements and; before Israel made the first claims to territories the Israeli Government stated (n 22nd May ’48) were “outside the territory of the State of Israel”.

On May 15th 1948 the extent of Israel’s Sovereign territories were clearly defined in the Israeli Government’s official plea for recognition to the President of the USA.

May 15, 1948 Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

The US immediately recognized Israel as such. No more, no less. The British also recognized Israel as such and considered non-declared territories under Israel’s control by the time of British recognition, as occupied.

On May 22nd 1948 the extent of Israel’s Sovereign territories were clearly stated again in the Israeli Government’s Reply to the UNSC.

May 22, 1948 The reply of the Provisional Government of Israel UNSC S/766 to the questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations on May 22.

“at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947. In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard [1]. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.”

The Israeli Govt goes on to use these phrases in the document:

“the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel” — “outside the area of the State” — “beyond the frontiers of the State of Israel”

Four instances where the Israeli Government, after having declared and been recognized, acknowledged limits to it’s territory. aka Borders, delineating the state of Israel from Palestine!

On 12 Aug 1948 an Israeli Government Proclamation says Jerusalem was “occupied”.

Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948.

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[1] “international regulations” at the time say;

Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
“Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised. “

On June 15, 1949, Israel’s position on its frontiers, statement to the Knesset by Foreign Minister Sharett.

June 15, 1949 Israel-s position on its frontiers VOLUMES 1-2: 1947-1974
“As for the frontier between the State of Israel and the area west of the Jordan which is not included in Israel…”

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On the 31st Aug 1949 Israel made it’s first official claim to territories beyond the extent of its sovereign frontiers. After accepting UNGA resolution without registering any reservations. After declaring Israel Independent of any other entity including Palestine, per the borders of UNGA Res 181 and; enshrining UNGA Resolution in the Declaration. After being recognized as asked & declared. After confirming what was “outside the territory of the State of Israel” to the UNSC and by proclamation declaring Jerusalem “Israeli-Occupied”. After being accepted into the UN, as recognized and based on the Israeli Government statements to the UNSC prior to the UNSC recommendation. Israel’s claim was rebuffed, citing the Armistice Agreements, specifically the Armistice Demarcation Line is not to “be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary”.

UN Charter

Chapt XI DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES . Israeli Declaration “Israel…will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations May 14th 1948.

Under the UN charter, the acquisition of territory by war is inadmissible. The only manner in which territory can be acquired is by legal annexation. Israel has never legally annexed any territory

Consecutive Israeli Governments have been LYING to it’s own citizens and the world for 62 years.

Contrary to the opinions on why the British took so long to recognize Israel, the British waited until an Israeli Government was elected and waited until Israel was accepted into the UN as Declared and as recognized by the majority of Nations. The British also took into consideration the statements by the Israeli Government, granting de jure recognition of State and elected Government, with conditions.

ISRAEL (GOVERNMENT DECISION) HC Deb 27 April 1950 vol 474 cc1137-41 “His Majesty’s Government have also decided to accord de jure recognition to the State of Israel, subject to explanations on two points corresponding to those described above in regard to the case of Jordan. These points are as follows. First, that His Majesty’s Government are unable to recognise the sovereignty of Israel over that part of Jerusalem which she occupies, though, pending a final determination of the status of the area, they recognise that Israel exercises de facto authority in it. Secondly, that His Majesty’s Government cannot regard the present boundaries between Israel, and Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Lebanon as constituting the definitive frontiers of Israel, as these boundaries were laid 1139 down in the Armistice Agreements concluded severally between Israel and each of these States, and are subject to any modifications which may be agreed upon under the terms of those Agreements, or of any final settlements which may replace them.”

Nothing has yet replaced them. Israel has never legally annexed any territory to the “frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947”. It’s two attempts at annexation were condemned by UNSC Res 252 (+ 5 reminders) and UNSC Res 497, the Golan.

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These territories, “outside the territory of the State of Israel”, acquired by war, confirmed by the Israeli Government as occupied and never legally annexed to Israel, are quite simply not sovereign to Israel. As Professor Stephen M. Schwebel, after leaving office as a Judge of International Court of Justice, explains (citing Elihu Lauterpacht), a sovereign can ‘restore’ it’s own sovereign territory by war. It cannot ‘acquire’ territory by war.

Israel has never had to ‘restore’ any sovereign territory, it has never had any sovereign Israeli territory taken from it. In fact, failing to reach a peaceful settlement under Chapt VI of the UN Charter, Syria has a right to ‘restore’ the Golan by war. Likewise Egypt had the same right over the Sinai.

Detailed Partition Map.
Overlay for Google Earth with borders marked according to text of UNGA Res 181 (included)
1947 Partition Google Earth Overlay

November 2, 2010

What will happen if the Palestinians Declare Sovereign Independence by the ’67 armistice lines?


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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A declaration of Sovereign Independence according to the Armistice lines of ’67 by the Palestinians makes for a really interesting situation…

FACT : Palestine’s name has not changed since Roman era. Under the Ottoman rule, the region was called Palestine. Under the Mandate, the region was called Palestine. Jordan was declared Independent of Palestine in 1946. What remained was still called Palestine. Israel was declared Independent of Palestine in 1948. . What remained was and is still called “Palestine”. The UNSC resolutions call for “peace in Palestine”, never peace in Israel. The wars have not been fought in Israel.

FACT : Palestine today is comprised by default, of the territories outside of and bound by the actual Internationally recognized extent of Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanian, Egyptian & Israeli sovereignty. The legal status of Palestine has not changed since Israel was declared independent of Palestine on May 14th 1948. Armistice Demarcation Lines and Cease Fire lines have changed, neither of which have changed any borders.

FACT : Jerusalem was never instituted as a corpus separatum by the UN. It was not a part of Israel’s declared or recognized sovereignty. Jerusalem’s status has never legally changed from being a part of Palestine for over 2,000 years. Far longer than the entire existence of the Jewish Kingdom.

FACT :Territory can only be ‘acquired’ by legal annexation. The territories Israel illegally acquired by war by 1950 and has never legally annexed, are still legally a part of Palestine. (about 33% of the territory Israel claims as it’s own). It is inadmissible to ‘acquire’ territory by war. According to Schwebel/Lauterpacht, a state may ‘restore’ its sovereignty over its own territory by war. E.g., Syria has the right to ‘restore’ the Golan.

FACT : No actual borders were changed in ’67. Armistice Demarcation Lines are not borders unless they follow the actual borders existing before the armistice or unless “occupied territories” are legally annexed during the period of the armistice.

FACT : A Declaration of Sovereign Independence only comes into effect when the territories declared are completely free of occupation. (example ..“The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time” After the British occupation/Mandate ended.) In order to come into effect, Israel would have to withdraw from all of the territories declared by Palestine.

FACT : A Palestinian declaration according to the ’67 armistice lines and subsequent recognition as an Independent state, will not change the extent of Israel’s actual Internationally recognized declared sovereignty. There will still be a requirement to legally annex the territories between Israel’s legally recognized borders of 1948 and the border of Palestine for them to become sovereign to Israel.

By declaring Sovereign Independence according to the ’67 armistice lines, territories not declared as sovereign by the Palestinians and not declared as sovereign or legally annexed to Israel, would remain a part of Palestine until their status is legally changed via legal annexation.

Israel will finally have to either legally annex them, (legal annexation requires an agreement of the legal citizens, sans citizens of the annexing party) OR occupy them. As the Occupying Power, Israel would then be duty bound to PROTECT THEM until they in turn have the ability to become independent or decide to be annexed. However, as an Independent Sovereign State, Palestine would also be Regional Power. As such it would also have the same right to legally claim, annex or occupy the same territories.

Conundrum : If the Palestinians declare themselves independent by the boundaries of the ’67 armistice and call their state Palestine, what will the remaining, tiny, entity be called? And what are the ramifications if it erupts in civil war, outside the sovereignty of either entity? (HERE for the possible ramifications for Israeli citizens).

Which Regional Power would take over. It could ask to be legally annexed by one of the Regional Powers, as the Palestinians requested of TransJordan in 1950.

Which Regional Power would it trust? One who has for 64 years usurped the Palestinians, denying them RoR, razing their homes, villages, farms? Or the party who would sacrifice some 50% of it’s rightful territories, in order that there be peace, helping Israel extract itself from the illegal, facts on the ground black hole it has dug for itself and it’s illegally settled citizens?

If neither Israel or Palestine annex, hundreds of thousands of people living in the remaining, tiny, entity, many of whom are currently Israeli citizens, will be stateless.

If Israel does annex, it must be by agreement with the remaining tiny entity. This action alone would show the world that these territories were never a part of Israel. I.e., it has been bullsh*tting for 64 years. (Not that Israel ever seems to care about being shown as deceitful, as long as it has land).

Palestine would have just as much right as Israel to legally annex. Would Israel go ballistic? Kick the sh*te out of ye olde china shoppe? Ask yourself….. Who will stop them? The US, mightiest nation on earth, can’t even stop Israel’s illegal settlement program!

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