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September 29, 2016

PERES LIES ON BEHALF OF ISRAEL, IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AT THE UNITED NATIONS


It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, it’s a territory of State of Palestine…

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Peres was an inveterate liar, warmonger and terrorist

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Israel, MDG Debate 20 September 2010
Transcribed from http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/2010/09/israel-mdg-debate.html

“Mr President, ladies and gentlemen. History was written in blood. Most wars were waged over territory. Today, science, creativity and knowledge replaced land as the source of wealth. Land can be conquered. Not science. Science is global, borderless. Armies can’t conquer it.”

Lie No# 1 – Israel stifles the ability of the Palestinians to develop science, creativity, knowledge, agriculture, self determination, by illegally acquiring Palestinian land and suppressing them, with the IDF. The IDF is an army!

“Yet, still, Lawless terrorists spread violence caused by ideological differences, social gaps and sheer fanaticism.”

A) Peres was a member of the terrorist Haganah. They did not stop until their goal was achieved. B) Already he forgot the wars “waged over territory” in which Israel has illegally ‘acquired by war’ some 50% of the Palestinians rightful territories since 1948.

” The new millennium must liberate the world, from bloodshed, from discrimination, from hunger, from ignorance, from maladies.

Modern science is capable to provide new answers. In the coming ten years there will be an explosion of knowledge. Computation power increased a million folds in the last 25 years. Scientists are venturing into the brain.

Mr. President,

I speak on behalf of a small people, and a tiny land. We knew rebirth despite the murder of one third of our people. The Shoah. We were alone. Our land was attacked 7 times in 62 years. Again.”

Lie No# 2 – Israeli/Jewish forces OUTSIDE OF Israel’s Sovereign territories were attacked. Israel was acting outside of it’s actual Sovereign territory. It did not ask for UN help, because it knew it would not be forthcoming. There is no UNSC Resolution condemning the Arab States Invasion of PALESTINE. Israel had just been declared independent of Palestine, even as Jewish forces were outside of the territory being declared as Sovereign. What was a civil war escalation under Plan Dalet, became a war waged by a State (Israel) on a non-state entity, the moment Israel declared it’s sovereign territory and adopted the Jewish forces outside of it’s sovereign territory. The Arab States had a right, as Regional Powers, to attempt to expel foreign forces from the non-state entity they represented.

“Never giving up on hope, we developed science. We found that the future is in our hands. We learned that people can enrich land, no less than land can nourish the people.

Israel is the product of pioneering human spirit – not of financial capital”

Lie No# 3 – The Jewish Colonial Trust was one of the first things setup by the Zionist Federation garnering support from Jewish people around the world, because it DID depend on capital. The Kibbutz was poor. He was poor. He had only two pairs of pants. The Zionist Federation and the Institutions had more than two suits. Theodor Herzl didn’t even bother to go live in Israel. Never worked on a kibbutz.

“In spite of wars, we made peace with Egypt and Jordan.”

Lie No# 4 – Israel was FIRST required to AGREE to the terms of a Peace Treaty. The Terms it acquiesced to, required Israel to AGREE to WITHDRAW from ALL of Egypt’s territory, then implement the WITHDRAWAL and FINALIZE the withdrawal, BEFORE peaceful relations resumed. Israel is still claiming territory OUTSIDE of it’s Sovereignty. No Arab State has claimed ANY Israeli territory since the Declaration of the State of Israel …within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947,. Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory. Not the undeclared territory ‘acquired’ by war by 1950 or “territories occupied” and never withdrawn from. Left under in the trust of a Regional Occupying Power.

“The territorial dispute with Lebanon has ended and acknowledged so by the UN.

We left Gaza on our own initiative. Completely. “

Lie No# 5 – UNSC Res 1860 on Caste Lead, tells us Israel occupies Gaza

“We are now negotiating with the Palestinians in order to realize the two-state-solution:

A Jewish state, Israel. An Arab State- Palestine. There is no other peaceful alternative. And, I believe that we shall succeed”

Lie No# 6 – ‘I believe that we shall succeed’… By Israel continuing to act illegally by aiding and abetting the ILLEGAL settlements continuing in “territories occupied”. It is against the GC’s. The GC’s were formulated in large part because of the horrors perpetuated on the Jewish people. They are there in order to protect all civilians, including those of the Occupying Power, by keeping them out of areas where arms might be expected, especially when that territory belongs to someone else. It is also against Israeli law for Israeli citizens to enter a hostile entity. Does he really expect talks to succeed while Israel continues to act outside the law? While illegal settlers blatantly flaunt the International Law. Israel agreed to uphold International Law. At this time, it has done NO THING to uphold International Law. It is shamefull.

“We are ready to enter in direct negotiations with Syria immediately.

Immediately, has taken 42 years of occupying the Sovereign territory of an Independent Sovereign State and illegally settling Israelis in it! UNSC Res 242. “..acknowledgment of Sovereign integrity etc etc”

Mr. President,

We are committed to the Millennium development goals. We share the burden of saving the world from war and hunger. Without peace, poverty will remain. Without food – peace will not prevail.

Statesmen have to mobilize political power to achieve peace. Scientists can enable the land produce more food. We developed an agriculture based on science.

Our farmers produce 8-folds per acre compared with the nation’s early days. The need for water was cut in half. We employed desalination, recycling, drip and electronic irrigation and bio-engineering to create new seeds and richer crops.

Five decades ago, an Israeli farmer produced food for 15 persons. Today, he produces for 120.

The farmer’s contribution to the GDP equals that of a high-tech engineer. To cultivate land, you have to cultivate education and improve health.

So we introduced free compulsory education for all, from age 5 to 18. It brought an end to illiteracy and provided us with the highest rate of scientists per square mile in the world. The National health-care system provides world-class treatment for every citizen.

We are also one of the only countries in the world that entered the 21st century with more trees than it had when it entered the 20th century.”

Lie No# 7 – Agriculture and trees planted in Illegally ‘acquired’ territory by 1950 (never annexed) and in ‘territories occupied’ (illegally annexed) are NOT IN Israel. ONE THIRD of the territory Israel claims as it’s own, ISN’T.

“Mr. President,

I am confident that our path is available to everyone. Our experience is replicable. We are ready to share our experience as we did already with many countries –– both through UN agencies and bilaterally.

Our call includes also nations that don’t have diplomatic ties with us.

Mr. President,

The other day, the formal leader of Iran declared there’s no future for Israel in the Middle East.”

Lie No# 8 He did? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=”no+future+for+Israel+in+the+Middle+East”+%2BAhmadinejad+-peres

“I believe that the Middle East has room for every person, every nation, every religion.

We believe that every person was created in the image of the lord – and there’s just one Lord who calls not to hate, not to threaten, not to seek superiority, and not to kill. There is enough room for friendship in the Middle East.”

Lie No# 9 – Israel kills, actually maintains superiority over the Palestinians, illegally acquires their territory, occupies them, illegally annexes, illegally settles, has dispossessed half the population and has threatened them if they did not comply. Every day. For 62 years.
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“Ladies and Gentlemen,

In my youth I was a member of a Kibbutz, cultivating poor land.”

Lie No# 10 – He worked in two – Kibbutz Alumot, which was in desert. In his time it was a failure. It didn’t blossom in the desert.

The other, Geva in the Jezreel Valley, which was NOT poor land or a desert. It was already blooming and had done so for centuries. Of the Jezreel Valley Bayard Taylor 1852 wrote one of the richest districts in the world

Laurence Oliphant 1887 wrote the Valley of Esdraelon (Jezreel) was ‘a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive’

” I owned, like all members, two shirts and two pairs of pants. There was a third pair of pants: made of flannel reserved for grooms only.

I was lucky to wear them for two full days during my wedding. The main dish in the kibbutz was eggplants. Meat was available once a week, but not every week. There was no private money and little collective money.

We were poor and happy. The sort of happiness felt when a person as is turning desert into garden. “

Lie No# 11 – Kibutz Alumot was a failure in his time, it didn’t turn the desert into garden. It was abandoned until 1967 and Kibbutz Geva was not in the desert, it had been a fertile garden for centuries.

“Today the kibbutz has a thriving agriculture and a profitable guest house. Food is plentiful. It is in the kibbutz, in scarcity, where I learned to respect pioneers. And developed an affinity to creative minds and laborious hands. Actually, my early dream was to see the world as a great kibbutz. Free, peaceful, productive.”

Lie No# 12 – Except for the Palestinians who Israel continues to dispossess and occupy. Whose land Israel continues to illegally acquire. Who Israel will not allow trade in or out of Gaza, stifling any development and productivity.

“Mr. President,

I call upon this gathering to address the two burning challenges: first, to harness science and technology to increase food production. And second, to stand together against terror. “

Lie No# 13 – He was a member of the terrorist outfit Haganah, who fought to establish Israel. He has become the President. If he wasn’t a terrorist, he wouldn’t be President.

A hungry world will never be peaceful.

Lie No# 14 – Israel currently has an embargo on ALL Palestinian citizens in Gaza. Until Israel lifted some restrictions after the outcry over it’s unwarranted attack on the Mavi Marmara, the embargo included foodstuffs.

“A terrorized world will never be governable. We should unite around a common hope. The cradle of our children shall be the cradle of our vision.”

Israel’s vision in 1949 was this

Today it is this

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October 1, 2015

One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind


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One step for Palestine a giant leap for mankind

The raising of the flag of the STATE OF PALESTINE!

http://webtv.un.org/watch/raising-of-the-palestinian-flag-at-the-united-nations/4521239871001

UN speech by Mahmoud Abbas

http://webtv.un.org/watch/palestine-general-debate-70th-session/4521133284001

December 10, 2014

The Hasbara is really stupid propaganda. Laws reaffirmed in UN resolutions are binding!


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You’ll see it again and again .. UN/UNGA and UNSC Chapt VI resolutions are non binding.

However, the UN Charter itself is binding on ALL Members in its entirety.

That matters be resolved peacefully in accordance with International Law and the UN Charter is binding.

UN Charter chapters re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolution are as a matter of course binding! They do not suddenly become non-binding just because they’re in a so called ‘non-binding’ resolution.

Similarly International and Customary International Law is binding. Laws re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolution are binding!

Likewise conventions that have been ratified by a majority of the International Comity of Nations automatically pass into Customary International Law and are thereby binding. The majority of Nations have ratified the Geneva Conventions. Geneva conventions re-affirmed and/or emphasized in an UN/UNGA/UNSC resolutions are binding!

September 27, 2013

Netanyahu CONvincing the world at the UN 2013


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May 24, 2013

Kerry and the Question of Palestine. In perspective


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Kerry and the Question of Palestine.

In perspective

kerry is just another us politician

kerry is just another us politician

UNSC res 252 has EIGHT reminders…. Does Kerry really think they care?

May 10, 2013

The three No’s of Khartoum – no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel


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The three no’s of the khartoum conference. “no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel”

Right, wrong? Just, unjust? Reasonable? Biased? Antisemitic? Most importantly, what were the conditions that prompted the Arab states to adopt this stance?

2. The conference has agreed on the need to consolidate all efforts to eliminate the effects of the aggression on the basis that the occupied lands are Arab lands and that the burden of regaining these lands falls on all the Arab States.

3. The Arab Heads of State have agreed to unite their political efforts at the international and diplomatic level to eliminate the effects of the aggression and to ensure the withdrawal of the aggressive Israeli forces from the Arab lands which have been occupied since the aggression of June 5. This will be done within the framework of the main principles by which the Arab States abide, namely, no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it, and insistence on the rights of the Palestinian people in their own country.

This is simply a reflection of UNSC res 476 1. Reaffirms the overriding necessity to end the prolonged occupation of Arab territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem;

No peace with Israel: While territory sovereign to Egypt was under Israeli occupation the two states were technically at war. In the eventual Egypt Israel Peace Treaty Israel was first required and agreed to begin withdrawal before peaceful relations were assumed.

No recognition of Israel: There is no legal basis for demanding recognition.

A) States plead for recognition

B) ” ..in the view of the United States, International Law does not require a state to recognize another state; it is a matter for the judgment of each state whether an entity merits recognition as a state. In reaching this judgment, the United States has traditionally looked of the establishment of certain facts. The United States has also taken into account whether the entity in question has attracted the recognition of the International community of states.” There are numerous UN Member states who do not recognize other UN Member States.

All states are never the less required to show “respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force”. This is reflected in UNSC res 242.

No negotiations: Israel is in breach of numerous UNSC resolutions, International Law, the UN Charter, relative conventions. There is no legal requirement for negotiations. For example the words ‘negotiate’, ‘negotiations’ do not appear in UNSC res242 on which the Egypt Israel Peace Treaty is based. Israel was and still is required to adhere to the law, negotiations or not. Egypt and Jordan were correct in refusing negotiations while Israel was in breach of its legal obligations in respect to their sovereign territory.

The signing of a negotiated peace treaty between Egypt and Israel was by default an act of recognition and; after Israeli withdrawal peaceful relations were assumed. Likewise with Jordan. Both are examples of what UNSC res 242 was formulated to achieve. The end of hostilities between UN Member States.

However, while Israel occupies non-Israeli territories in Palestine, the Golan Heights, Shebaa Farms, the Alghajar village UNSC res 425 and UNSC res 426, Israel is technically at war and those states have a right to “restore” sovereignty over their territories. Professor Stephen M. Schwebel / Elihu Lauterpacht

The Palestinians meanwhile are under no legal obligation to sign a peace agreement with an Occupying Power, to recognize an Occupying Power or to negotiate with an Occupying Power. Negotiations mean only one thing, the Palestinians forgoing some of their legal rights so that Israel may keep non-Israeli territory illegally acquired by war, illegally annexed and illegally settled by Israel since 00:01 May 15th 1948 (ME time)

March 28, 2013

Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran? It’s irrelevant to the International Law


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Propagandists trying to justify Israel’s illegal acquisition of non-Israeli territory are so stupid they beggar belief

Their narrative goes something like this: “Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran”

So what? It is entirely irrelevant to the Internationally recognized sovereign extent of the State of Israel and Israel’s responsibilities & illegal activities as the Occupying Power over non-Israeli territories.

Never the less …

The Quran is written in Arabic. Jerusalem translated to Arabic is القدس. The word “القدس” appears in 4 verses in Quran

I’ve been shown to be incorrect. Edited accordingly

March 27, 2013

The wholly holey olde Hasbara – Palestine vs Israel the I/P conflict – Israeli propaganda is really weird


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The wholly holey olde Hasbara, is really weird

The Israeli narrative goes something like this: “The international court only gave an advisory opinion, not a binding legal decision” Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (Request for advisory opinion)

Quite true and the court’s advisory opinion was that had they been asked to make a legal decision, binding law would not fall in Israel’s favour!

Only an idiot would proudly hold up the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice pointing to the illegality of Israel’s actions… while claiming it as some kind of evidence in one’s favour…

It’s

really

twisted.

A state which according to the UNSC is in breach of laws, the UN Charter and relative conventions adopted at the end of WWII in large part because of the treatment of Jewish folk under the Nazis is in respect to those laws behaving no better than the Nazis. That some folk seem to be as oblivious as the German population of their state’s crimes, should be ringing alarm bells.

It’s

really

twisted.

March 23, 2013

Israeli propagandists and the wholly holey moldy olde Hasbara


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Dedicated to those Israeli propagandistas who, when asked to provide evidence of their claims, simply can’t … or when they try, they show just the opposite

Waiting for the Israeli propagandist Take the Mandate for Palestine.
The propagandist narrative goes like this. “Under the British Mandate Jews have a right to settle anywhere in Palestine”” the British Mandate still applies”

However the Mandate for Palestine (the correct title), doesn’t say there should be a Jewish ‘state’. Article 7 Jewish immigrants could get “Palestinian” citizenship.

Furthermore, the Israeli Government web page on the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, tells us the Mandate “expired” on the night of May 14th 1948 (ME time)

On the May 15th 1948 the Israeli Government’s request for recognition stated:

“MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

A declaration of Independent Statehood as envisaged by UNGA res 181 which is enshrined in the Jewish People’s Council Declaration, could not have come into effect if any of that state’s territories were under the authority of another power. One must be ‘independent’ to declare independence. The British administration of Palestine had to end.

However, by 00:01 May 15th 1948 and before 1 October 1948 Jewish forces were already occupying territory in what remained of Palestine, none of which has ever been legally annexed to Israel. Including Jerusalem.

64 years on Israel is still preventing an Independent Palestinian State

April 29, 2012

The Hasbara – The world’s most stupid propaganda – Israeli Palestine peace agreement and Palestinian Right of Return.


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Israel says there must be a peace agreement with Palestine before there can be consideration given to any RoR.

Think about ….

Under the most basic Right of Return required of any state, a) the country of return has right of final veto on individuals and; b) those accepted are all required to agree to live in peace. They would then become; c) Israeli citizens! d) They would not be citizens of the Palestine with whom Israel has the peace agreement!

Furthermore, it is an individual right to decide to return or accept compensation. The PA/PLO/an Independent State of Palestine can only legally argue that RoR be respected on behalf of the individuals concerned. Any agreement curtailing those rights could set a ghastly precedent which could effect all RoR for all refugees and the right to self determination.

BTW This is the definition of a refugee used in UNGA Res 194. Interesting reading! It included Jewish refugees at the time.

September 24, 2011

Netanyahu’s speech at the General Assembly 23rd September 2011. WOW! Listen to the applause


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Netanyahu
Welcoming Applause – Moderate – about 30 seconds
Applause after Speech – About 9 seconds of tepid applause
Er….wow….impressive…

Applause at the end of Netanyahus speech

Abbas
Welcoming Applause – Rousing – about 50 + seconds
Applause after Speech – Over a minute
That’s CHUNKY!!!

It doesn’t even fit on the page!!!!

Abbas applause at the end of UNGA Speech Sept 2011

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Map shows in red, the territory > > > > > > >
the Palestinians are willing to sacrifice for peace > > >

Israel is still taking Palestinian territory
Sacrificing nothing for peace
Making no concessions of any kind

The Palestinians have taken nothing of Israel’s

Territories acquired by war and never legally annexed to Israel

What law gives any country a right to
more “defensible borders” than its neighbour?

The phrase ‘defensible borders’ does not appear in any
Law, Convention, the UN Charter UNGA or UNSC Resolution!

None of the territory Israel has acquired by war has ever been legally annexed to Israel. Hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been unwittingly living outside of Israel for 60 years nor more, bolstered by a web of lies and deceit, protected only by the US veto vote in the UNSC

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December 27, 2010

Israel vs Palestine. The fallacy of defensible borders. UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” sovereign territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
it’s a territory of Palestine…

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UNSC Resolution 242 says NOTHING about ‘defensible borders’

LOGIC: No matter how much of other folk’s territory an entity acquires for ‘defensible’ borders, it will still be next to the people whose territory it is acquiring.

QUESTION: Why has one entity in any region the right to have more ‘defensible’ borders than any other entity in the region?

Fact is, it hasn’t. UN Charter Article 2
“The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.
The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.”

If Palestine is recognized by a 2/3rds majority of UN Member States, game over for Deuteronomy 20:15. Game over for being an Occupying Power over what will legally be recognized as a “Regional Power”. There is no requirement that they be powerful, nor do they have to be a UN Member State.

Of course defensible borders are a military advantage, however, the Jewish People’s Council accepted and declared boundaries “within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947”, which did not include territories already under the control of Jewish forces at the time of declaration.

They did not include the territories Israel confirmed were not it’s own on May 22 1948

They did not include the territories Israel attempted to claim on 31st August 1949

They did not include the territories Israel has ‘acquired’ by war, or illegal annexation, or illegal settlement, since declaration. None of which has been legally annexed.

QUESTION: If the territory is genuinely acquired for military purposes, aka, defense, why is it being populated with …. ahem….Israeli civilians?

The Laws of War and GC’s are there to protect ALL civilians, especially NOT having the Occupying Power’s civilians in occupied territories for the simple reason that the occupied have a right to armed resistance in which the Occupying Power’s civilians might become collateral statistics The Occupying Power has a duty to it’s civilians to ensure they are NOT in territories acquired by war, in order to safeguard them. Israel in fact endangers it’s citizens by encouraging and assisting them to settle in occupied territories!

QUESTION In order for an entity to defend it’s civilians illegally in illegally ‘acquired’ territories, from those whose territories it has illegally acquired, is it logical for Israel to further incur their wrath by attempting to acquire even more of their territory to protect the territory you have already illegally ‘acquired’?

The answer is of course, no. Consecutive Israeli Governments have been more than irresponsible, they have been incredibly … STUPID!!

November 9, 2010

Pushing the Hasbarrow for Israel.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the actual Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel, then by default it is the territory of what remained of Palestine on May 15th 1948.
Non-self Governing Territories fall under the protection of the UN Charter Chapt XI…

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The Hasbarrow Inc

End the Israeli occupation of Palestine

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“We were poor and happy. The sort of happiness felt when a person as is turning desert into garden.”

Peres worked in two kibbutz – Kibbutz Alumot, which was in desert. In his time it was a failure. It didn’t blossom in the desert.

The other, Geva in the Jezreel Valley, which was NOT poor land or a desert. It was already blooming and had done so for centuries. Of the Jezreel Valley Bayard Taylor 1852 wrote “one of the richest districts in the world”

Laurence Oliphant 1887 wrote “the Valley of Esdraelon (Jezreel) was ‘a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive’ “

Kibutz Alumot was a failure in his time, it didn’t turn the desert into garden. It was abandoned until 1967 and Kibbutz Geva was not in desert, it had been a garden for centuries.

What was his point? Israel allegedly turning the desert into a garden is IRRELEVANT to the actual legal status of Israel’s Internationally recognized sovereign extent.

See also Mark Twain Another Hasbara fairy tale, completely IRRELEVANT to the actual legal status of Israel’s Internationally recognized sovereign extent.

October 12, 2010

Is Israel actually a democratic state? Read the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel. The words ‘democratic’ and ‘democracy’ simply do not appear.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948. Neither are a part of Palestine, nor is Palestine a part of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel

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How many times have you heard “Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East” ?

HERE for the Full Text of The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel.

Partial text

“WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948,”

An Israeli Government has never been elected in accordance with A) the Declaration B) in accordance with the Constitution. An Israeli constitution has yet to be written. It was a legal condition accepted by the Jewish People’s Council for declaring Independent statehood.

It is arguable that no Israeli law has ever been passed by a legally elected Israeli Government. The Provisional Government was not elected, was not put in place by a referendum, nor was the Zionist Federation or any other body representing the world’s Jewish population towards the formation of the State of Israel.

THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel;”

The prophets of Israel are a religious notion = theocratic. shades of Deuteronomy 20:15 perhaps?

“it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex;”

Depending on who those inhabitants might be, based on the prior ‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’

” it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions;”

‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’

” and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations.”

‘as envisaged by the prophets of Israel’?

Israel was not a democracy for the first 8 months as an Independent Sovereign State. There was no elected Israeli Government between May 15th 1948 and the first Israeli election on 25 January 1949. No laws during this period were passed by a democratic Government.

62 years later, we see:
Not able to reconcile the two notions Democratic and Jewish State, successive Israeli Governments are still acting without a constitution.
Still usurping the Palestinians
Denying the Bedouin their nomadic culture
Ignoring the Geneva Conventions
Ignoring the Israeli High Court
Ignoring the UN Charter
Ignoring hundreds of UNSC Resolutions
Illegally ‘acquiring’ territory not sovereign to Israel
Illegally annexing “territories occupied”
Illegally instituting Israeli Civil Law in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950 and never legally annexed to Israel
Illegally building Israeli civilian infrastructure in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950
Illegally building AND illegally selling dwellings to Israeli citizens illegally in “territories occupied” and territories illegally acquired by war by 1950

Haaretz – [[ Rabbi Yosef, who has been known to make controversial comments in the past, cited rulings based on the Book of Deuteronomy related to the Jewish people’s inheritance of the land, the presence of other peoples on the land, and that the Jews should not make a covenant with them “nor show mercy unto them.”
According to Yosef, this has been understood to mean barring the sale of land to non-Jews, based on an interpretation by Rabbi Yosef Caro, the 16th-century author of the codification of Jewish law, the Shulhan Arukh. ]]

The International community, the UN, the UNSC has only ever asked that Israel adhere to it’s voluntary obligations under the law. The same laws guarantee Israel the right to defend itself from all comers. They do not require Israel to relinquish ANY sovereign territory.

However, Israel seems to operate under the assumption it’s only answerable to a higher power, perhaps that of the prophets of Israel?

The Palestinians have only asked that Israel recognize their rights, which are no more or less than the rights of every human granted under the UN Charter and International Humanitarian Law.

Have Israelis actually voted for policies resulting in the above? Or have they been duped into the current situation? At the time of writing this, two of the most pertinent documents relating to Israel’s actual recognized Sovereign territories are nowhere to be seen on the Israeli Govt web site. Ignorance is bliss?

Interesting essay by Amnon Rubinstein. Professor of law at the Interdisciplinary Center, Herzliya and an Israel Prize laureate. (note the title though “The Curious Case of Jewish Democracy”)


Discussion on reddit

October 11, 2010

Could a peace agreement lead to an Israeli civil war? What are the implications were it to happen?


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948 respectively. Neither are a part of Palestine, nor is it a part of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel

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Could a peace agreement lead to an Israeli civil war? Inconceivable?

1) Consider the number of lawlessness illegal settlers who will very likely object to any peace agreement especially if they’re faced with either becoming Palestinian citizens or being re-settled in what might become or what is already actual sovereign Israeli territory.

2) Hundreds of thousands of Israelis, Jewish and non-Jewish, live in complete ignorance of the fact that they OUTSIDE of Israel’s actual sovereign territory.

Israel has never legally annexed any territories to it’s declared sovereign boundaries. It’s declared sovereign boundaries are those it accepted under UNGA Res 181 – the basis of Israel’s recognition by the majority of the International Community of Nations (democratically over riding the Arab states legal objections) : Letter from the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, May 15, 1948 “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.” Also available as PDF from the Truman Library

Quite a vast section of Israel’s citizenry are simply not living in Israel. But for the sake of this article, let’s just consider the illegal settlers in “territories occupied” since 1967. These are not just small outposts set up by hardliners. They’re vast housing estates, whole townships. Israeli citizens in illegally annexed East Jerusalem are also illegal settlers.

Again, for the sake of this article, let’s for the moment consider were a civil war to break out. It would for the most part, likely be fought in areas outside of Israel’s sovereignty. Under the UN Charter events outside of the sovereign territory of states are of concern to A) Other Regional Powers, the Arab States. B) The UN/UNSC.

Under the UN Charter, which Israel voluntarily agreed to, the UN/UNSC and Regional Powers have a RIGHT to intervene when UN Member States act outside of their acknowledged sovereign territories. An Israeli civil war in “territories occupied” would be OUTSIDE of Israel’s sovereignty.

September 18, 2010

If Israel legally annexes territories after this round of negotiations, it will tell us two major realities.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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Perhaps the most ironic outcome would be were Israel to legally annex ANY territories in a negotiated outcome.

It would

A) Quite clearly show that all along those territories were NEVER actually sovereign to Israel, thereby dispelling the twaddle peddled by those who say it is already Israeli territory.

B) Quite clearly show the generosity of the Palestinian people by forgoing the right to all their territory in order to have peace and perhaps, if they wish, declare a state or independent sovereignty.

Meanwhile., no one can force a people to accept a deal that is less than their rights. Nor can they be forced to declare statehood with anything less that their rightful territories. It’s up to the OCCUPYING Power, as a TRUSTee, to recognize those rights.

In the end the only way the Palestinians can have a state, is when occupation ends.

The declaration of the State of Israel ONLY came into effect AFTER the British Mandate (occupation as a TRUSTee) ENDED . INDEPENDENCE. Look it up. …

March 28, 2010

Petra Marquardt-Bigman purposefully misses the point, on behalf of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of the non-state entity of Palestine…

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Petra Marquardt-Bigman typifies the insanity that has caused 62 years of grief for the people of Palestine.

From the Guardian’s CiF 28 Mar 2010 Obama’s other difficult partners

Ms Bigman asks

“Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu is presently seen as the chief obstacle to Middle East peace, but what of the Arab League?”

What of them? All they ask is that Israel abide by the law. The Arab League are not illegally acquiring territory. They’ve not illegally annexed anyone else’s territory. They’re not illegally instituting their civil law in illegally annexed “terriories occupied”. They’re not illegally building illegal civilian infrastructure for illegal settlers in illegally acquired and “territories occupied”. They’re not illegally selling land and illegally built homes for illegal settlers in “territories occupied”. They’re not holding any one else’s territory but their own. The territory they claim as rightfully theirs, has been acknowledged as rightfully theirs.

On the other hand, for the last 62 years Israel has and still is illegally acquiring other folk’s territories, ignoring International law and numerous UNSC resolutions. Yet Ms Bigman completely misses this disturbing and significant fact. So too the word ‘illegal‘. In order to justify her stance and point the finger every which way, it is simply is not allowed to enter the equation. The elephant cannot be acknowledged.

Having deleted the reason the US is currently asking Israel to uphold the law. Having completely ignored the reason that the Palestinians refuse to negotiate is because the elephant is still crapping on the carpet while saying it wants to negotiate without pre-conditions, except of course, the pre-condition to be allowed to keep crapping on the carpet and deny that it is.

Having completely missed the point in it’s entirety, Ms Bigman is like someone watching television from the back, with the power cord pulled from the socket, desperately trying to relate some sort of story to her readers, in order to shift the blame for all the elephant crap.

The crux of her finger pointing everywhere and anywhere but at the crapping elephant, is perhaps condensed into her final desperate attempt to skirt around the elephant.

“For their part, the Saudis and other Arab leaders seem content to look at the Arab Peace initiative as a “take-it-or-leave-it” proposition. As Prince Saud al-Faisal argued in an interview last year:”

“What can we do more than that? The land that is occupied is in the hands of Israel. We don’t have anything to offer Israel except normalization, and if we put that before the return of Arab land we are giving away the only chip in the hands of Arab countries.”

“The obvious problem with this argument is that, from Israel’s vantage point, it means that Israel is expected to give up land, and then hope that it will indeed get peace in return. It sure didn’t work out this way when Israel withdrew from Lebanon 10 years ago, or from Gaza five years ago. President Obama’s initial approach, which envisaged reciprocal confidence-building measures, was exactly what was needed; it is deplorable that there was no Arab support for his initiative.”

Her justification, while ignoring the stench of elephant poo, the fact that the Arabs States and the Palestinians actually do not have anything of Israel’s, is a concern that: after having cleansed the illegal settlers and their IDF body guards from “territories occupied” in Gaza. After having illegally had years use of free land, free water and cheap labour, while millions of dollars went into the pockets of illegal settlers and the fact that Israel is still illegally acquiring Palestinian territory, peace might not follow Israel’s withdrawal.

“Israel is expected to give up land, and then hope that it will indeed get peace in return. It sure didn’t work out this way when Israel withdrew from Lebanon 10 years ago, or from Gaza five years ago.”

A) Israel is not expected to ‘give’ anything. It is quite simply not Israel’s to give. Israel is expected to abide by the law

B) Israel still held Lebanese territory, (still claims Syrian territory).

C) Israel STILL occupies Gaza and the West Bank, still illegally claims 50% of the Palestinian’s rightful territories.

Of course it didn’t work Ms Bigman. Since 14th May 1948, Israel has been outside of it’s legitimate acknowledged boundaries. Claiming someone else’s territory. But let’s look at where Israel HAS stopped illegally claiming other folk’s territories.

Having skirted around and around, under and over the elephant, deaf to it’s trumpeting and blind to the dung she is treading into the carpet, Ms Bigman is as oblivious to it as she is to the fact that when Israel did withdraw from Egypt and Jordan, two of Israel’s deadly enemies. Who both objected to partition, who both fought wars with Israel over the Palestinian territories…

Israel

got

PEACE!

March 11, 2010

Who took away the right of Jewish people to legally settle in all of the Jewish peoples Historic homeland in Palestine today? The Arab States? Palestinians?


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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How many times have you heard the saying, “The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”? The truth is … it’s just another fallacy. In its history since and including the Roman era all or part of Palestine has been under the control of some entity or another. For some 2,000 years or so Palestine has never had full control of all it’s territories.

But this little article is not about the Palestinians and it’s not an argument for a one or two state solution or for the dismantling of the State of Israel. Israel exists, so be it. It has a right to protect it’s actual territories and it’s citizens in accordance with the UN Charter, the Laws of War and the various conventions. Rather, it is a look at what transpired in order to reveal who or what, prevents the Jewish people from legally settling in their historic homeland in Palestine today.

ONCE UPON A TIME, from the fall of the Roman Empire until about 1922, there was an opportunity for Jewish folk to settle anywhere in Palestine, without being illegal settlers. Why did so many Jews NOT take advantage if, as we’re led to believe by the Zionist colonizers, it was such a burning desire. They didn’t. They missed that opportunity. Herzl in his life time could have gone to Palestine, gained legitimate citizenship, bought real estate and settled anywhere in the Jewish People’s Historical homeland. He didn’t. Nor did his family.

The next opportunity was recognized by the British via the Balfour Declaration. A Jewish homeland, in Palestine. As Palestinians (at the time Jewish folk in Palestine were also Palestinians). All citizens would have been under Palestinian Law, which would have guaranteed equality, freedom of religion, democracy. (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was there under the British Mandate over Palestine It even offered an opportunity of assistance similar (perhaps even less restrictive than the arguments being bandied about today) to Israel’s current Law of Return. Article 7 The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine. (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was there in the British White papers in 1922 (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was re-iterated in the British White papers in 1939 (missed opportunity)

Was it the Palestinians who took this right away? No. In fact, they had no say and were being represented by the Arab States who said when outlining their legal case for the 1948 Invasion of Palestine, “.. in accordance with democratic principles, whereby its inhabitants will enjoy complete equality before the law, [and whereby] minorities will be assured of all the guarantees recognised in democratic constitutional countries, and [whereby] the holy places will be preserved and the right of access thereto guaranteed.” Almost identical to the missed opportunity offered in the Balfour Declaration, the missed opportunity in the British Mandate over Palestine, the missed opportunity in the White papers, per the League of Nations Charter and later the UN Charter. It was their argument from the outset for all Palestinians, Jewish and non-Jewish, to determine their own fate and to have the opportunity to decide where they would settle in Palestine.

The opportunity was missed by the Zionists at EVERY opportunity!. The dunce’s cap is a Kippa!

In the situation as it stands today, Israeli Law in force since independence, absolutely forbids residents and citizens to leave Israel for any country designated by law as an enemy state or hostile entity. Israeli civilian settlements, Israeli civilian infrastructure and Israeli civilians in non-annexed territories, in territories illegally annexed by Israel and in “territory occupied” and not withdrawn from (i.e., still occupied) , all run contrary to International Law and the Geneva Conventions. They are ILLEGAL!

Israeli Jews (and non-Jews) are restricted under International Law and the Geneva Conventions, to only being able to legally settle in actual Israeli territory.

‘What about the Jews who were dispossessed in the Arab States?’ Most of the Arab States were never a part of the Jewish homeland in Palestine and the restriction on Jews living in TransJordan was imposed by the British BEFORE TransJordan achieved complete independence.

‘What about Jewish folk dispossessed from ‘Judea & Samaria’ under TransJordan?’ Unfortunate, but it happened as A) a reaction to Israel dispossessing hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians, AFTER Israel became an Independent Sovereign State. and B) there was a WAR going on. Folk who’re likely to side with an entity’s enemies are expelled or interred. The US did it. The UK did it. Australia did it. Israeli Law in force since independence, absolutely forbids residents and citizens to leave Israel for any country designated by law as an enemy state or hostile entity.

So, who ‘never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity’? Why other than the demand for a separate Jewish State, are the Jewish people deprived of the right to legally settle in all of their historic homeland in Palestine today?

The Palestinians have been under the control or occupation of one entity or another since the Roman era and before. In the entire history of Palestine, there has never been an opportunity they might have been able to declare Independence.

Instead of Israel’s founders demanding the right to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, as equals, they demanded a separate Jewish State. It has resulted in some 50% of the Palestinian’s rightful territory being wiped off their map. Illegally acquired by war. Illegally annexed. Illegally built on and illegally sold, to illegal Israeli settlers.

Now that Israel exists as a separate Sovereign State, the ONLY way Jewish folk will ever have the right to legally settle in their historic homeland anywhere in Palestine, will be for Israel to end occupation, withdraw to it’s actual borders. Allow the Palestinians their independence in their rightful territories, whereby they can develop a constitution granting, if they desire, Jewish folk that right. The only thing making it illegal today, is the current Government of the Jewish State. The only thing stopping the possibility of it happening in the future, are the Jewish State’s illegal activities today. Missing opportunity after opportunity!

December 26, 2009

Fostering ignorance, hatred and planting the seeds of fear in a festering war for more land. A Greater Israel at all costs, even the basic tenets of Judaism.


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of the non-state entity of Palestine…

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Bearing goodwill isn’t a burden

A common argument we hear against the Palestinians and one recently reiterated by the Israeli Foreign Minister Snr Lieberman is like many others, excuse my French, bullshit!

From Haaretz // Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has ordered diplomats to use an old photograph of a former Palestinian religious leader meeting Adolf Hitler to counter world criticism of a Jewish building plan for East Jerusalem. Asked why Lieberman issued the order, a spokesman said: “because it’s important for the world to know the facts” and would not elaborate.//

What ‘facts’? Simple, unbiased, non-partisan, maths, tells us there are no facts associated with today’s Palestinians. First some history on Snr al-Husseini.

Haj Amin al-Husseini was sentenced to ten years in prison by the British for inciting riots in 1920, he was given amnesty by the high commissioner of Palestine, one Herbert Samuel, who then appointed him as Mufti of Jerusalem, 1921. Samuel was also responsible for creating the Supreme Muslim Council, which al-Husseini was appointed to lead in the following year. Ironically Herbert Samuel was Jewish.

The Palestinians of the time had no say in his appointment as Mufti of Jerusalem. His appointment was opposed by the Muslim High Council, regarding him as a thug. The Palestinians had no say in his appointment to the Supreme Muslim Council. They had no say in his appointment to the Arab Higher Committee. He murdered Jews and Arabs who would not comply.

The Mufti opposed increased Jewish immigration to Palestine and was responsible for the 1929 / 1936 riots against Jewish settlement. The British declared the Arab Higher Committee illegal, al-Husseini lost his Presidency of the Supreme Muslim Council and even his membership on the Waqf committee and went into exile in Syria. He never returned to Palestine.

In 1941, when he met Hitler he was no longer the Mufti of Jerusalem and no longer an official representative of the Palestinian people. The volunteer Muslim forces he controlled were not Palestinian. They didn’t operate in Palestine. // In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti (*?) as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974// (* he was not actually the Mufti at that time) …. by the time he returned to the M East Hitler was dead, any support tied to Hitler’s promises, was non-existent. He was refused entry into Jerusalem by King Abdullah, King Tallal and King Hussein of Jordan. He died in exile in 1974.

Now let’s look at some simple maths. The Palestinians of today have a life expectancy of 73 yrs. In 1941 it was likely lower. The date of Foreign Minister Lieberman’s order 22nd July 2009.

68 years has passed between 1941 and 2009. Subtract 68 from life expectancy (today) 73 = 5yrs old in 1941. In 1948, 12 yrs old. In 1936, 0-1yrs old. In 1929 / 1920 not even born. Simple maths tells us that today’s Palestinians had NOTHING to do with the riots of 1920, the Mufti of Jerusalem, the riots of 1929 1936, the Holocaust or Hitler or WW2 or for that matter, the 1948/9 war. They were only children!

Yet the Foreign Minister of Israel, Snr Leiberman, encourages people to make an association between the Palestinians of today and events that occurred while they were only small children. Events they could not have possibly had any influence on what so ever.

No Palestinians AT ALL voted for the appointment of the Mufti of Jerusalem in 1921. The Palestinians did not vote him into any position of power. No Palestinians of today were involved in the riots of the 1920’s – 1929 – 1936. No Palestinians of today supported al-Husseini or Hitler in 1941. No Palestinians of today, or 1941 for that matter, fought in Croatia or Hungary. It is doubtful that many, if any, Palestinians of today fought in the war of 1948. The majority of Palestine refugees were and still are innocent civilians.

So what ‘facts’ was Lieberman’s spokesman talking about? Answer – none! None of it is relevant to today’s Palestinians.

Simple maths is not biased, not Arab propaganda. The Foreign Minister of Israel is either completely shite at maths, which I doubt, or a liar. Those who repeat the propaganda are either blindly ignorant, incapable of simple maths or liars themselves. Bearing false witness is against the basic tenets of Judaism.

October 13, 2009

Bearing false witness for Israel. Ignoring International Law and breaking the basic tenets of Judaism! Is it a sickness?


When it comes to Israel, the basic tenets of Judaism are thrown out. Everything is Ziofied.

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/your-brain-zionism

Your brain on Zionism – Katie Miranda is an illustrator, jewelry designer, and cartoonist living in Portland, OR.
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Comments in green

The internet and news services are flooded with Pro-Israeli propaganda. Blatant lies, transparent cherry picking, fallacies and mis-information are propagated by the unwitting, the ignorant, outright bigoted and sad to say, those from one would expect better than bullshite. From the top to the bottom, they all seem to be stricken with the same symptoms. Ziofictation

Netinyahu, whose speech at the UN was an insult human intelligence.

Moshe Arens a journalist, who it seems, has not actually read the Goldstone report.

Prof Geoffrey Alderman A professor no less, who should know better

Prof Gerald M Adler Another professor, who should also know better

Elliott A. Green who should also know better

Obadiah Shoher of Sampson Blinded, who openly advocates ethnic cleansing AND justifies the slaughter of non-Jews.


A license to kill…By Moshe Arens “While the Goldstone report is being eagerly read in Israel and in capitals around the world, it is also being intensively studied by terrorists bent on destroying the State of Israel – and they must be breathing a sigh of relief. This is not only because the Hamas terrorists in Gaza are in effect getting off scot-free in the report ….”
The report has nine pages condemning Hamas’ actions. Need one go on? Either Moshe Arens has not read the report or he is a liar.


Ironically, where “Facts are Sacred”, the fallacies are allowed to remain. Common sense posts, with links to the source documents dis-proving Prof Alderman’s fallacies, are completely purged.

geoffreyalderman 12 Oct 09, 1:00am “…It must be remembered that the Palestinians already have one state of their own – Jordan, the territory of which was part of the original Mandate given to the UK by the League of Nations.”
” Professor” Alderman? A professor should surely be able to think! But it seems not.
Common sense tells us that only the Palestinians from the area that became Jordan (TransJordan), had a right to citizenship in Jordan. Palestinians who did not come from that particular part of pre-1946 Palestine, did not. They were and still are citizens of what is left of Palestine. When one eats a part of an apple, what remains is still apple.
As Palestine has been whittled away, what has remained is still Palestine. Anyone born in Jordan since 1946 is Jordanian. In 2009, if they’re under 63, they’re ‘Jordanian’ Jordanians.

“Concerning the Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria, the right of Jews (as distinct from Israelis) to dwell therein was guaranteed by the League and endorsed by the UN at its foundation. “
A) But Professor Alderman you’re trying to justify illegal ISRAELI settlements in the West Bank. It is the ISRAELI Government issuing the construction contracts, yes?
B) The League and the UN of course were referring to a state called Palestine, in which Jewish folk could have a homeland under Palestinian Law and as citizens of Palestine. HERE is what Balfour says.

BALFOUR : “The contradiction between the letters of the Covenant [of the League of Nations] and the policy of the Allies is even more flagrant in the case of the ‘independent nation’ of Palestine than in that of the ‘independent nation‘ of Syria. For in Palestine we do not propose to even go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country though the American Commission is going through the form of asking what they are.”

It is interesting to note he says “the ‘independent nation’ of Palestine, which indicates the intention of the Balfour declaration was not to have a separate Jewish ‘state’, but a homeland for Jewish folk IN Palestine, the peoples to be Palestinian citizens, under Palestinian Law. Where of course, under those circumstances, as citizens of Palestine, Jewish folk would have had the right to live anywhere in Palestine. HERE is what the British Mandate says, in particular Article 7:

Article 7 The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine. “

There is actually NOTHING about a separate Jewish State, or building illegal ISRAELI settlements in the West Bank, in any of the documents the good Professor cites.
“There is a full and definitive explanation of this right by Professor Gerald Adler in the September 2009 issue of Journal of the Law Society of Scotland…”
Alas Professor Gerald Adler, like Professor Alderman, completely ignores International Law SEE HERE

Furthermore, these ‘Professors’ seem to be oblivious to the fact that the British Mandate over Palestine ENDED on 14th May 1948!

So again, where “Facts are Sacred”, the fallacies are allowed to remain. Posts with links to the source documents dis-proving Prof Alderman’s fallacies, are completely purged.

geoffreyalderman 12 Oct 09, 2:24pm “..I am on record as supporting the right of Palestinians who claim they were forcibly expelled from Israel to have their claims investigated by a truly independent body, and compensation awarded. Of course a similar right must be extended to the 750,000 or so Jews who claim they were forcibly expelled from Arab and Muslim countries at the time of Israel’s re-establishment. That’s only fair, isn’t it?”
a) RoR is an inalienable right. I.e., it applies to ALL civilians who flee a conflict, regardless of why they fled, regardless of who told them to flee, regardless of who started, stopped, won or lost a war, because they are CIVILIANS. They are civilians who might not have voted for, or even been able to vote for, the regime that started the war or who told them to flee or why they should flee.
B) People who take up citizenship in a new country no longer have refugee status. They forgo all that refugee status grants them. Are there any Jewish refugees today?
C) The good ‘professor’ denies for Palestinians, who are still refugees, who have not forgone their refugee rights, what he claims for Jews, who are no longer refugees.

“… Khaled Meshaal, the Syria-based leader of Hamas [too frightened, apparently, to return to Gaza] has reiterated that his party demands “Palestine from the sea to the river, from the west to the occupied east, and it must be liberated.” The BBC report explains that he is referring to the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea “and therefore the state of Israel.” Not much hope of peace with him and his ilk, then, is there?”
This ‘Prof’ Alderman is a ‘professor’ of what? Ignorance?
Hamas is only a political party. Political parties cannot form states because they can change, regimes can dis-appear completely. A large percentage of the population might not have voted for them or might not have even been able to vote at all.
Look to the Declaration of a Jewish state for a good example. A People’s Council is necessary to Declare on behalf of ALL the people, regardless of their politics. A People’s Council is non-political and only exists to Declare statehood and administer until a Government is formed.


Professor Gerald Adler Sept 2009 Journal of the Law Society of Scotland Mr Ritchie’s article omits to make even a single reference to the role and earlier judgments of the Israeli Supreme Court. Since 1967, it has opened its doors to receive petitions for redress submitted by Palestinians alleging personal injury and harm or damage to their property within the OPT..”
A) Why should Mr Ritchie reference a court that has no Jurisdiction in an Occupied Territory? B) Professor Gerald Adler admits it’s the OPTs. Yet he doesn’t know that the Occupying Power has NO RIGHT to institute Israeli Civil Law in the OPTs? That the Israeli Supreme Court has no jurisdiction in the OPT. The premise of his argument is based on IGNORING International Law. Israel’s claims are ALL based on ignoring International Law.

Laws of War Art. 55. “The occupying State shall be regarded only as administrator and usufructuary of public buildings, real estate, forests, and agricultural estates belonging to the hostile State, and situated in the occupied country. It must safeguard the capital of these properties, and administer them in accordance with the rules of usufruct.”

 



Elliott A. Green ” USING INTERNATIONAL LAW REGARDING THE LAND OF ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM”
“International law has recognized Jewish rights to sovereignty over the Land of Israel and to settlement throughout the land. In April 1920…”
A typical Ziofied dialogue. No where does it mention ‘sovereignty’. It simply does not exist in the documents cited.


In support of their arguments, ALL of them cite their Ziofied versions of International Law, adding, changing, using words that simply do not exist in the actual documents. Yet ALL of them completely ignore International Law when it comes to Israel.

All of them ignore the FACT that Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory, ever! They ignore that the unilateral annexation of East Jerusalem was declared ILLEGAL by the UNSC.

How can this be? Ignorance? No, some are Professors of Law. How can they be ignorant of the Law? Naive? No, they all lay claim to having ‘studied’ the the issue. How can they have missed the points raised here? How can they just ignore International Law as though it doesn’t exist. If it isn’t a sickness, are they lying? And if they’re lying, which is against the basic tenets of Judaism, why?

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