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March 11, 2010

Who took away the right of Jewish people to legally settle in all of the Jewish peoples Historic homeland in Palestine today? The Arab States? Palestinians?


…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s a territory of Palestine…

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How many times have you heard the saying, “The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity”? The truth is … it’s just another fallacy. In its history since and including the Roman era all or part of Palestine has been under the control of some entity or another. For some 2,000 years or so Palestine has never had full control of all it’s territories.

But this little article is not about the Palestinians and it’s not an argument for a one or two state solution or for the dismantling of the State of Israel. Israel exists, so be it. It has a right to protect it’s actual territories and it’s citizens in accordance with the UN Charter, the Laws of War and the various conventions. Rather, it is a look at what transpired in order to reveal who or what, prevents the Jewish people from legally settling in their historic homeland in Palestine today.

ONCE UPON A TIME, from the fall of the Roman Empire until about 1922, there was an opportunity for Jewish folk to settle anywhere in Palestine, without being illegal settlers. Why did so many Jews NOT take advantage if, as we’re led to believe by the Zionist colonizers, it was such a burning desire. They didn’t. They missed that opportunity. Herzl in his life time could have gone to Palestine, gained legitimate citizenship, bought real estate and settled anywhere in the Jewish People’s Historical homeland. He didn’t. Nor did his family.

The next opportunity was recognized by the British via the Balfour Declaration. A Jewish homeland, in Palestine. As Palestinians (at the time Jewish folk in Palestine were also Palestinians). All citizens would have been under Palestinian Law, which would have guaranteed equality, freedom of religion, democracy. (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was there under the British Mandate over Palestine It even offered an opportunity of assistance similar (perhaps even less restrictive than the arguments being bandied about today) to Israel’s current Law of Return. Article 7 The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine. (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was there in the British White papers in 1922 (missed opportunity)

The opportunity was re-iterated in the British White papers in 1939 (missed opportunity)

Was it the Palestinians who took this right away? No. In fact, they had no say and were being represented by the Arab States who said when outlining their legal case for the 1948 Invasion of Palestine, “.. in accordance with democratic principles, whereby its inhabitants will enjoy complete equality before the law, [and whereby] minorities will be assured of all the guarantees recognised in democratic constitutional countries, and [whereby] the holy places will be preserved and the right of access thereto guaranteed.” Almost identical to the missed opportunity offered in the Balfour Declaration, the missed opportunity in the British Mandate over Palestine, the missed opportunity in the White papers, per the League of Nations Charter and later the UN Charter. It was their argument from the outset for all Palestinians, Jewish and non-Jewish, to determine their own fate and to have the opportunity to decide where they would settle in Palestine.

The opportunity was missed by the Zionists at EVERY opportunity!. The dunce’s cap is a Kippa!

In the situation as it stands today, Israeli Law in force since independence, absolutely forbids residents and citizens to leave Israel for any country designated by law as an enemy state or hostile entity. Israeli civilian settlements, Israeli civilian infrastructure and Israeli civilians in non-annexed territories, in territories illegally annexed by Israel and in “territory occupied” and not withdrawn from (i.e., still occupied) , all run contrary to International Law and the Geneva Conventions. They are ILLEGAL!

Israeli Jews (and non-Jews) are restricted under International Law and the Geneva Conventions, to only being able to legally settle in actual Israeli territory.

‘What about the Jews who were dispossessed in the Arab States?’ Most of the Arab States were never a part of the Jewish homeland in Palestine and the restriction on Jews living in TransJordan was imposed by the British BEFORE TransJordan achieved complete independence.

‘What about Jewish folk dispossessed from ‘Judea & Samaria’ under TransJordan?’ Unfortunate, but it happened as A) a reaction to Israel dispossessing hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians, AFTER Israel became an Independent Sovereign State. and B) there was a WAR going on. Folk who’re likely to side with an entity’s enemies are expelled or interred. The US did it. The UK did it. Australia did it. Israeli Law in force since independence, absolutely forbids residents and citizens to leave Israel for any country designated by law as an enemy state or hostile entity.

So, who ‘never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity’? Why other than the demand for a separate Jewish State, are the Jewish people deprived of the right to legally settle in all of their historic homeland in Palestine today?

The Palestinians have been under the control or occupation of one entity or another since the Roman era and before. In the entire history of Palestine, there has never been an opportunity they might have been able to declare Independence.

Instead of Israel’s founders demanding the right to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, as equals, they demanded a separate Jewish State. It has resulted in some 50% of the Palestinian’s rightful territory being wiped off their map. Illegally acquired by war. Illegally annexed. Illegally built on and illegally sold, to illegal Israeli settlers.

Now that Israel exists as a separate Sovereign State, the ONLY way Jewish folk will ever have the right to legally settle in their historic homeland anywhere in Palestine, will be for Israel to end occupation, withdraw to it’s actual borders. Allow the Palestinians their independence in their rightful territories, whereby they can develop a constitution granting, if they desire, Jewish folk that right. The only thing making it illegal today, is the current Government of the Jewish State. The only thing stopping the possibility of it happening in the future, are the Jewish State’s illegal activities today. Missing opportunity after opportunity!

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16 Comments »


  1. this post is what you call attacking a straw man.

    the jewish goal was not to ‘settle in all of the jewish homeland in palestine’, it was to govern themselves. the jews definitely did not miss the opportunity as they have been ruling themselves for over 60 years now.

    Comment by straw man — September 2, 2011 @ 12:51 am


    • “this post is what you call attacking a straw man

      You should look up what straw man means

      “the jewish goal was not to ‘settle in all of the jewish homeland in palestine’,”

      A) The Article is about the “right” to settle anywhere in Palestine.

      Never the less …

      B) If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. …. Ben-Gurions position was adopted by a five to four vote …

      C) 31st Aug 1949 State of Israel’s 1st claim to territories outside the territory of the State of Israel. A claim to ALL OF the Palestinian territory under Israeli occupation at the time.

      ” it was to govern themselves. the jews definitely did not miss the opportunity as they have been ruling themselves for over 60 years now”

      Bravo. However, self governance was not the basis of the article. The straw is in your court Pajero

      Comment by talknic — September 2, 2011 @ 11:14 am


  2. At last some people talking truths instead of BS we hear everyday coming out of the both america and israel. It is time that america for one stop arming these people and make them abide by the laws set. The UN is no more than a pet cat for america, simply hissing and spitting but of no use what’s so ever to anyone but their own egos.
    The world lives in ignorance and this is what the jews like more than anything, as long as ignorance prevails they will never be made accountable for their illegal actions or their crimes they have perpetrated against the Palestinians.
    America has play a huge roll in all of this by aiding and abetting israeli governments form the very beginning and like the brits said they are terrorists and still are.

    Comment by Stillz — May 17, 2011 @ 10:45 pm


  3. Funny, this one…

    Under the British Mandate over Palestine quite a many Jews did not miss the opportunity to move back in Palestine. Aren’t you people complaining about that too? How the horrible Jews flooded the land deliberately just to change the demographics? The opportunity was not missed.
    It just wasn’t easy, as the people already living there didn’t like having Jewish neighbors and wanted to keep the things as they had “always” been, that is, the Jews forbidden to move to Palestine. Just remember the Nabi Musa riots 1920 and Jaffa riots 1921. Remember Hebron and Safed 1929.

    Before WWII most Jews weren’t interested in having a Jewish state nor moving to Middle East, because THEY considered themselves citizens of the country they were living in. WWII changed it all, telling every Jew on earth that they will never be accepted as equal citizens of any country they live in, they will always be seen as foreigners, always be living in someone else’s land, in someone else’s country, and always be the first to be accused and punished when things start going wrong, and the first victims of xenophobia. Holocaust made it necessary for Jews to have a country of their own, where they will be living on their own land, in their own country.

    Naturally many Jews moved to Israel after declaration of independence, to defend their fellow Jews against another attack, this time by the Arabs. It was only a couple of years after Holocaust had been revealed to the whole world in all its horribleness, and that, naturally, made most of the world’s population pro-Jewish, so most of the world’s nations recognized Israel immediately. Besides, no-one ever thought that the Palestinian Arabs would not be welcome to live in the new Palestinian Arab state of Trans-Jordan, if they didn’t wish to live in Palestinian Jewish state of Fore-Jordan or Israel. They were welcome to live in Israel, you know.

    But, as you say: “…there was a WAR going on. Folk who’re likely to side with an entity’s enemies are expelled or interred. The US did it. The UK did it. Australia did it.” And Israel did it. The Israelis “likely to side with Israel’s enemies” are expelled, and according to you there’s nothing odd or wrong in that. I think it’s only natural that the vast majority of these were Arabs themselves or refusing to become Israelis or running away themselves.

    I would like to point out that most people who has fled their country of origin for the fear of violence and discrimination through the ages are not asking for the right to return to the country they left. They take full responsibility of their own decision and the consequences of it, one being that one has left behind oneself the life as they knew it.
    The Karelians fleeing their homes during the WWII are today as Finnish as any other Finn.
    My Chilean neighbors who left their homes and lives during Pinochet’s rule consider themselves today Swedes, and their children don’t even want to go to Chile. They are Swedish.
    My Palestinian neighbor, born in Sweden, considers himself “Palestinian” in exile, even though he has never been in Palestine, and even though there never has been a country called Palestine. (It’s a name for an area in Levant.) As Swedish, (which he is, because he’s born here) he could travel to Israel, even move there, like many Scandinavians do, in time apply for Israeli citizenship, perhaps even one day buy the estate where his great-grandfather used to live, but he won’t, because he’s “Palestinian”. He has the opportunity but refuses to take it.
    Many Palestinians would like to become Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, and have a life, but are not allowed by their country of origin… that is, the country they were born in, the country they are living in, and the country they won’t ever get the citizenship of, because they are needed in political games… Perhaps if the Palestinians were given civil rights and citizenship in their current country, and THEN the Palestinians still living in Palestine found out how many actually would use the “right to return”, they might actually be able to do so. Considering that “refugees” who are not willing to live in peace and by the laws and rules of the country they wish to return to, don’t have the right to return (according to the International refugee laws), and considering that you may only return to the country of origin; that is the country you were born in, which automatically cuts out all the “second and third and nth generation refugees”. :->

    Uh. I could talk about these things for ages, but I have other things to do. :-)
    Have a nice day. :-)

    Comment by ketutar — November 15, 2010 @ 12:48 pm


    • My ketutar, your Hasbarrow is overladen.…..I’m guessing by your departure you won’t be back. Clever stuff.

      Just for the record folks

      Under the British Mandate over Palestine quite a many Jews did not miss the opportunity to move back in Palestine.

      Uh huh…Did you spot the title? “Who took away the right of Jewish people to legally settle in all of the Jewish homeland in Palestine today?

      I believe TODAY is some 62 years AFTER the Mandate expired, May 14th 1948. You’ll find it stated in the first line of the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel.

      “How the horrible Jews ..”

      Making false accusations is against the basic tenets of Judaism. Making things up is simply pathetic. You do know how to “quote”?

      “….flooded the land deliberately just to change the demographics?

      “Quote”……… me..

      ” The opportunity was not missed.”

      Uh huh… today? (you’ll find it in the title) …on a roll, you are not.

      “…. the people already living there didn’t like having Jewish neighbors”

      Strange the Ottoman Empire welcomed Jews. They served in the Ottoman System of Government and courts. Very well respected.

      and wanted to keep the things as they had “always” been, that is, the Jews forbidden to move to Palestine.

      How odd, tens of thousands of our Jewish fellows had migrated by 1905, bought land from Arabs and lived next to Arabs.

      Just remember the Nabi Musa riots 1920 and Jaffa riots 1921. Remember Hebron and Safed 1929.

      Had nothing to do with the Palestinians of today. It had a lot to do with the Zionist Federations demands

      “Before WWII …etc etc etc etc etc”

      Had nothing to do with the Palestinians of today. They were children. Maths is not your forte.

      Israel declared it’s boundaries May 14th 1948. There were Jewish forces already outside of those boundaries.

      “Naturally many Jews moved to Israel after declaration of independence, to defend their fellow Jews against another attack, this time by the Arabs.”

      Plan Dalet was launched two months before declaration. Run by what the British saw as terrorists.

      “It was only a couple of years after Holocaust had been revealed to the whole world in all its horribleness, and that, naturally, made most of the world’s population pro-Jewish,”

      Had nothing to do with the Palestinians of today. Nor anything to do with the Palestinians of 1948

      “..so most of the world’s nations recognized Israel immediately.”

      Based on the information they were supplied by the Provisional Israel Government… Read the British recognition.

      “Besides, no-one ever thought that the Palestinian Arabs would not be welcome to live in the new Palestinian Arab state of Trans-Jordan, “

      It wasn’t a part of the Partition plan accepted IN TOTAL and UNCONDITIONALLY by Israel, 14th May 1948.

      TransJordan was declared INDEPENDENT OF PALESTINE in 1946. From that moment TransJordan and what remained of the non State entity of Palestine were separate entities. Only the people who lived in the region that became TransJordan had a right to automatic Jordanian citizenship. All Jordan’s citizens are Jordanian. The citizens of what remained of the non-state entity of Palestine were all Palestinians, not Jordanian. All the citizens of what remained of the non-state entity of Palestine, were Palestinian, including Jewish folk, until May 14th 1948. When Israel Declared, what remained of the non-state entity of Palestine was an even smaller non-state entity, still called Palestine, it’s citizens, Palestinian. By denying the existence of the Palestinians, you deny the longer history of Jewish existence in the region.

      (By your criteria, folk who were not from Israel should be allowed and welcomed to Israel)

      “They were welcome to live in Israel, you know.

      In homes, farms, villages that were completely razed under the preemptive Plan Dalet? How generous.

      “But, as you say: “…there was a WAR going on. Folk who’re likely to side with an entity’s enemies are expelled or interred. The US did it. The UK did it. Australia did it.” And Israel did it. “

      A) Name one native or citizen expelled by the US, Brits, Australia.
      B) They were not dispossessed and had recourse to RoR.

      “.. most people who has fled their country of origin for the fear of violence and discrimination through the ages are not asking for the right to return to the country they left.”

      Statistics please…

      ” They take full responsibility of their own decision and the consequences of it, one being that one has left behind oneself the life as they knew it.”

      Uh huh 3,000 years ring a bell?

      “The Karelians fleeing their homes during the WWII ..Chilean neighbors.. Palestinian neighbor, born in Sweden, considers himself “Palestinian” in exile, even though he has never been in Palestine”

      Irrelevant (and sounds like BS). All people have a RoR. It’s a personal choice.

      “.. and even though there never has been a country called Palestine.

      There has never been a ‘state’ called Palestine. There was never a ‘state’ called Israel either, until it was declared one in 1948. There was once a kingdom, it lasted less time than the non-state entity of Palestine has existed.

      “Many Palestinians would like to become Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, and have a life, but are not allowed by their country of origin… etc etc”

      The Arab States have hosted Palestine refugees for 62 years at enormous monetary and social expense. They have fought wars on behalf of the Palestinians and they have adapted their own laws to accommodate the Palestinian desire to return.

      “Considering that “refugees” who are not willing….etc etc etc..”

      Do you actually have a point other than blaming everything on the victims? Israel created the refugee problem by not recognizing RoR. Yet Israel was guaranteed a Jewish majority. Israel further exacerbated the issue by dispossessing more Palestinians in 1967.

      No matter who starts (preemptors start preemptive wars) wins or loses a war, no matter who told civilians to flee or for what reason civilians were told to flee or for what reason they chose to flee the violence or whether they were driven out, they have a right to return, for the simple reason that they are civilians who might not have voted for or even been able to vote for the regime that started , won or lost a war. For example did the Palestinians vote for the leaders of the Arab states? Furthermore did the Palestinians of today, who were ALL children in 1948, vote for the leaders of the Arab states?

      “Uh. I could talk about these things for ages, but I have other things to do.

      Best you do them. Your talking is Hasbara.

      What preceded Israel’s declaration is irrelevant. Israel declared it’s boundaries and obliged itself to adhere to International Law. As the Occupying Power, Israel is obliged to protect the occupied, their properties and their territory. Israel has not.

      Instead, Israel demands to be allowed to illegally acquire, illegally annex and illegally settle territory outside of the extent of it’s Sovereignty. The Palestinians only claim their rights.

      Comment by talknic — November 15, 2010 @ 7:31 pm


  4. Great site Talknic..Absolutely brilliant!! If folks like YK (Yishai Kohen) and MaximalistFiction are flocking over here it’s only because they can sense and feel that you’re doing a great job..They know they have no answers but they can still try the old worn out hasbara shite…

    Comment by thankgodimatheist — November 1, 2010 @ 4:48 am


    • From one atheist to another…thanks

      They’re quite bizarre.

      Comment by talknic — November 1, 2010 @ 5:24 am


  5. Jewish people are legally entitled to be sovereign over the entire of Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Israel, parts of Jordan and parts of Lebanon. This is beyond dispute. These are internationally granted rights.

    Comment by maximalistNarrative — October 31, 2010 @ 8:38 am


    • Uh huh…. Show the documents … I’ll wait

      waiting for maxine

      Comment by talknic — November 1, 2010 @ 5:12 am


  6. This a great site. talknic, thank you so much for clarifying what David commented on. I was getting a little confused at what David wrote, but you made it clear. I struggle with the Mid East situation as it stands today. Being an American Jew, I feel obligated to support Israel no matter what but they’re making it so hard for to me to support them when I can clearly see they’re in the wrong half the time. If Israel already has all the Israel land, why in the heck are there settlers in the small portions of land left to the Pals? It just seems like an intentional way of bullying. I’m really upset with Bibi over the recent announcements in East Jerusalem. Why would you want to risk such an important friendship like the one Israel has with America? We send so much of our tax payer dollars over to Israel, besides all the donations from American Jews and Zionist Christians; the least Israel can do is show some respect. I feel like Israel has outgrown its dependancy on America. Almost being arrogant in a way.

    Comment by Bill Silverstein — March 18, 2010 @ 7:01 pm


    • Hi Bill,

      Thanks. I agree. It’s extremely hard to reconcile consecutive Israeli Governments rhetoric with their actions ‘on the ground’. Especially so for Jewish folk. When I first started looking at things in depth, I refused to accept what I was finding, but the more I tried to dis-prove it, the more I realized the world has been led up the garden path. What David wrote was no more than the typical justification for illegally acquiring Palestinian land. Sheeesh, I’m not looking for folk to agree with me, just hoping they’ll go read something other than the BS being propagated and THINK for themselves.

      It’s so easy to just believe something you’re comfortable with believing and never have your conscience pricked, than to find out what isn’t believable. One can only hope with information so freely available and able to be cross referenced on the internet, more and more people will become better informed, because the amount of olde cobblers pumped out for 62 years by successive Israeli Govts is amazing.

      Today it’s almost like the death throws of some wild beast thrashing about, grabbing at as much straw as it can, blatantly, in the face of the law, in the full view of the world, dissing even it’s allies. Perhaps because the chances of a Greater Israel are coming to an end and with it, all the juicy infrastructure, housing contracts and land sales that in all likelihood are the real motivations behind the lobbyistas.

      I was once covered in spittle by some bug eyed Greater Israel extremist, accused of being Antisemitic for having such a notion. There was a newspaper on the table with a headline about the ICAC investigation into corruption in Australia’s building industry. (it was what had earlier prompted me to start thinking about what it must be like in the illegal settlement industry) I said nothing and just pointed at it. Though he was gonna explode..if only I’d had a camera. Sometimes you just have to laugh at ’em.

      Like snr Lieberman, who is a thorough disgrace. Daniel Ayalon’s statements lately have bordered on insanity. “with or without Goldstone, Israel will defend its citizens.” Ayalon is supposed to be an intelligent person. The Goldstone report wasn’t about Israel defending itself. It was about possible war crimes. The level of spin is incredible.

      Netinyahu’s speech to the UN was ghastly. I’m no fan of Ahmadjinendad or their system of Government, but a comparison of the two speeches shows who was fear mongering, who was just…well…lying.

      We were given a homeland state, which obliged itself to the law. All I ask is that it uphold it’s voluntary obligations, but from the outset it seems the intention was otherwise.

      All the Palestinians have officially asked for are their rights. They’re the same rights under the law and conventions as anyone else in the world. That Israel refuses to recognize them kinda dims the shining light somewhat.

      Honest Jewish folk prayed for the homeland for 3,000 years. Now, it needs their prayers more than ever. Being a confirmed atheist, I’ll just plod along here.

      Cheers

      Comment by talknic — March 19, 2010 @ 8:41 am


  7. “You neglected to state that the Palestine was divided into two parts, one intended for Arab Palestinians and one for Jewish Palestinians.”

    Strange, the Balfour declaration, doesn’t mention it. It says this: “His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

    Nor did the White papers mention your fantasy. Nor did the British Mandate. We were granted the right to a Jewish homeland IN Palestine, WITH the other folk of the region.

    “Trans-Jordan, today’s Jordan is the Arab part and Israel, West of the Jordan the other”

    Read the documents provided, the one’s you’ve mentioned. And THIS.

    ” Even this was an inequity because the whole of the Palestine mandate was intended to be a Jewish homeland.”

    Our homeland was to be amongst the other folk of Palestine, IN Palestine, under Palestinian Law, as citizens of Palestine.

    You have either not read the Balfour declaration or the White Papers or the Mandate OR you’re full of sh*te! So go read ’em.

    “The British saw fit to reward the Saudi Princes with the invention of Trans-Jordan for the help of the Arab tribes against the Germans in WWII. (Illegal?)”

    AMAZING!!! But…..

    A) WWII was AFTER 1925.

    B) ‘the British’ ? — In 1925, the Council of the League of Nations established the Permanent Court of International Justice and an International Court of Arbitration, who ruled that Palestine and Transjordan were the successor states of the Ottoman Empire. [1] In 1946, TransJordan completed that process.

    C) ‘illegal?’ See B)

    “After the Arab Riots in the late 1930’s the British issued the White paper of 1939 despite the promises of the B(a)lfour Declaration of 1917(,) Winston Churchill and other prominent British MP’s at the time opposed the White paper of 1939 because it reneged on a previously signed agreement and the believed it was illegal..”

    While you’re getting a reliable source for your claim, you might ask yourself who pushed for and got a separate Sovereign State.

    You want a separate Jewish state? It exists already. What exactly is your point? Don’t come here and repeat pathetic Hasbara rubbish. Bring substantiated argument. Try thinking. Try cross checking what you seem to accept without question, otherwise you’re just a willing, useful, brainwashed fool.
    —–

    1] Digest of International Law, vol. 1, US State Department (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1963) pp 650-652]

    Comment by talknic — March 16, 2010 @ 4:20 pm


    • “1] Digest of International Law, vol. 1, US State Department (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1963) pp 650-652]”

      Do you have a link to or a copy of this three pages?

      PS: Thx for this awesome website.

      Comment by Michael — May 14, 2010 @ 10:56 am


      • Alas it is not on line, however it should be available at a university law department library. The US state Govt archives only go back to 1989 http://www.state.gov/s/l/c8183.htm

        Comment by talknic — May 21, 2010 @ 6:43 am

  8. You neglected to state that the Palestine was divided into two parts, one intended for Arab Palestinians and one for Jewish Palestinians. Trans-Jordan, today’s Jordan is the Arab part and Israel, West of the Jordan the other. Even this was an inequity because the whole of the Palestine mandate was intended to be a Jewish homeland. The British saw fit to reward the Saudi Princes with the invention of Trans-Jordan for the help of the Arab tribes against the Germans in WWII. (Illegal?) So, 70% of the rightful Jewish homeland was given to the Arabs (Illegal?). That’s more than enough. After the Arab Riots in the late 1930’s the British issued the White paper of 1939 despite the promises of the Belfour Declaration of 1917. Winston Churchill and other prominent British MP’s at the time opposed the White paper of 1939 because it reneged on a previously signed agreement and the believed it was illegal..

    Comment by David — March 16, 2010 @ 11:42 am

    • David

      “You neglected to state that the Palestine was divided into two parts, one intended for Arab Palestinians and one for Jewish Palestinians. Trans-Jordan, today’s Jordan is the Arab part and Israel, West of the Jordan the other.”

      Hilarious stuff.

      TransJordan was an Independent Sovereign State by 1946

      The Partition Plan was 1947

      I do believe 1946 was BEFORE 1947

      “the Belfour Declaration of 1917”

      Said nothing about a Jewish ‘state’.

      Comment by talknic — June 10, 2012 @ 3:36 pm


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