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June 18, 2012

The Hasbara. Another blatant Israeli lie: “Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy’s civilian population from harm’s way.”

Filed under: Israel & the Palestinians — Tags: , , , , , , — talknic @ 10:04 am

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Maimonides
“It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons
than to put a single innocent one to death.”

The Leader of the Jewish State made a speech at the UN General Assembly 24th September 2009 stating: “Never has a country gone to such extraordinary lengths to remove the enemy’s civilian population from harm’s way.”

Despite issuing warnings, the State of Israel had all means of escaping the violence of war closed, under the 2005 agreement with Egypt, thereby preventing civilians from fleeing a war zone.

If the State of Israel doesn’t adhere to even the most basic tenets of Judaism, why call it the Jewish State?

Geneva Convention 1V Section II Occupied territories Art49 The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

Not even the mercy of fleeing by boat after being driven into the sea. Israel controls all Palestinian territorial waters off Gaza’s coast.

If the Jewish State doesn’t adhere to the Customary Laws of War, why is it in the UN?

Think about the warnings, if you dare. We’re expected to believe only civilians are going to read the leaflets or listen to the warnings? Does that really make sense? Like all Hasbara, it simply does not add up.

“Hey Mahmoud, what do you think you’re doing? You can’t read that, it’s for civilians only ………….. pssst….. what does it say?”

“It says civilians only should flee the war zone to… to… uh… to… oh, some other part of the war zone, because one of the most modern equipped militaries in the world with their tanks, artillery, fighter bombers, missiles, fletchettes, cluster bombs, white phosphorus, infantry and billions of loverly dollars of US military aid, is coming to get us”

“Uh huh. Nice of them to give everyone warning”

“But they’re only warning civilians”

“Too late now, we’ve read th’ leaflet”

“We could pretend we haven’t

“WHY?”

Well, doesn’t that sort of screw their plan?”

“Not if you’re an Israeli propagandist pretending to be concerned about civilian casualties.”

“Ah. I see….So…..how much time have we got?”

“A few hours”

“OK…. hand me another one of them rickety olde home made rockets. Maybe we can hit something other than sand before we get outta here!”

“Right…. Uh… when you say … “get outta here” … er … th’ crossings are all closed, there’s only here to go unless we swim out to sea “

“They control that too! Not even being driven into th’ sea for these lil’ semites.”

7 Comments »

  1. Since no-one is paying me to do that, I ain’t gonna search and copy-paste numerous quotes and web links for you to just denounce them untrustworthy.
    Indeed, there is no point to prove such wide-known facts as Hamas preventing civilians to escape the warzone or establishing HQ in the basement of Shiba.

    Anyhow, you are welcome to prove that I’m lying. For example, provide any proof that Hamas ever helped civilians to escape the battlefield. Or that by the second half of the Cast Lead the Hamas’ headquarters were in any other location and not in Shiba’s basement.

    Comment by Prometheus — June 18, 2012 @ 2:48 pm

    • Sorry buddy. If you don’t substantiate your claims, you have no place here. So til you do….bye

      Comment by talknic — June 18, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

      • You do not substantiate your own claims either:
        1 – I am not aware of any other county which ever dispersed leaflets before bombing the area, so until you prove that there is/was some other entity which actively helped enemy civilians to flee the area it’s just more logical to assume that it’s you are the one who’s lying.
        2 – Palestinians – civilians and gunmen alike – were forewarned and given exact instructions on how to avoid the “dangers of war”. That was done in accord with Geneva Convention 1V Section II Occupied territories Art49

        The dialogue you’ve made up to ridicule my word’s actually backfires a bit – obviously IDF knew that not only civilians are gonna read these leaflets, which proves that the IDF was not after Palestinians but rather after terrorist infrastructure, weapons caches, etc.- as it is clearly said.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield#By_Palestinians

        2. A Gaza family describe how their farm was commandeered by Hamas, and their fear of protesting….
        The Abd Rabbo family own a farm on a hillside overlooking Sderot. The family have described in a Palestinian newspaper, al-Hayat al-Jadida, how Hamas fighters dug tunnels under their houses, stored arms in their fields, and launched rockets at night from their farmyard.
        A 22 year old member of the Abd Rabbo family said:-
        “You can’t say anything to the resistance fighters, or they will accuse you of collaborating with Israel and shoot you in the legs….”
        – The summary and quote are from an article which appeared in the Palestinian daily al-Hayat al-Jadida on 27 January 2009

        9. ‘They turned houses and mosques into battlegrounds, and the people now regret it….’ – from Arab electronic newspaper Elaph
        On 9 January, Abd al-Fattah Shehadeh wrote the following comment in the Arab electronic newspaper Elaph ( http://www.elaph.com ). This comment epitomises Hamas strategy:
        “Hamas turned houses and mosques into battlegrounds so that the people would protect them, and those who trusted them now regret it…..”
        – quoted by Ehud Ya’ari, Jerusalem Report, 2 February 2009

        http://www.beyondimages.info/b233.html

        http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/iopt0409webwcover.pdf

        http://www.reocities.com/palestiniansarelies/HumanShields.html

        Comment by Prometheus — June 19, 2012 @ 11:38 am

        • Oooops didn’t notice this comment..

          What claims have I not substantiated?

          1) “I am not aware of any other county which ever dispersed leaflets before bombing”
          Uh huh. Ever tried LOOKING? https://www.google.com.au/search?q=leaflets+before+bombing & 2) Despite the warnings, the civilian population of Gaza could not leave the war zone, Gaza.

          “obviously IDF knew that not only civilians are gonna read these leaflets, which proves that the IDF was not after Palestinians but rather after terrorist infrastructure, weapons caches, etc.- as it is clearly said. “

          It doesn’t actually ‘prove’ anything other than a leaflet has been dropped

          ” a farm on a hillside overlooking Sderot” Uh huh … In Hamas controlled territory which ‘hillside’ would that be?

          BTW the post is about civilians NOT being able to flee a war zone.

          Comment by talknic — May 17, 2014 @ 5:03 am

  2. You are factually wrong.
    Civilians were forewarned and instructed.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/warnings.html

    That was Hamas who have restricted civilian movements to benefit from human shields and ensure high number of casualties.
    Just one small fact you simply can’t deny – by the end of the war entire Hamas leadership was hiding in Sheba’s (the Gaza hospital) basement.
    They knew the Israel can’t pray the price of bombing the hospital to get rid of them.

    Comment by Prometheus — June 18, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

    • Prometheus
      Despite the warnings, the civilian population of Gaza could not leave the war zone, Gaza.

      “That was Hamas who have restricted civilian movements to benefit from human shields and ensure high number of casualties.”

      According to?
      and;
      According to who is this alleged “one small fact you simply “ haven’t provided a source for ??

      Comment by talknic — June 18, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

      • it was all over the news.thats the source,you failed to see.but i think you are lying.come on just admit it.why dont you get your biased head out and pay attention mr.know nothing at all, but your own hatred.besides you are ruled by a terrifying fear.the nukes will fly when the dumb arabs attack Israel again.Gods word says damascas will vanish in one hour.get it thats a nuke.egypt will be uninhabitable for 40 years again thats a nuke.ISRAEL will stand forever.GOD tells us (those who care to read about HIM) that any nation that curses ISRAEL will be destroyed.are you listening AMERICA?

        Sorry jerry sweet. I asked for some evidence and you’ve posted abuse… bye now

        Comment by jerry sweet — June 18, 2012 @ 3:56 pm


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