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May 10, 2012

The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal settlements before 1967 – Israel vs Palestine


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The Hasbara – World’s worst propaganda – There was no occupation or illegal Israeli settlers before 1967?

The following are not an unfounded accusations. The information is not from propaganda sites. They’re the official words of the Provisional Israeli Government 1948, as recorded by the UNSC and the Israeli Government web site and the opinion of the International Court of Justice. You decide.

Israel’s legal sovereign extent was defined by the Provisional Government of the State of Israel in its plea for recognition and it was immediately recognized as such while at war outside the territory of the State of Israel .. in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel [1]

May 15, 1948

Letter From the Agent of the Provisional Government of Israel to the President of the United States, “MY DEAR MR. PRESIDENT: I have the honor to notify you that the state of Israel has been proclaimed as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

May 22nd 1948

On May 22, 1948 UNSC S/766 the Provisional Government of Israel answered questions addressed to the “Jewish authorities in Palestine” was transmitted by the acting representative of Israel at the United Nations.

Question (a): Over which areas of Palestine do you actually exercise control at present over the entire area of the Jewish State as defined in the Resolution of the General Assembly of the 29th November, 1947?

"In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel, are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed." ... " the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel"

“international regulations” at the time say;

Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague IV); October 18, 1907 Art. 42 SECTION III
"Territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised."

Further to which as recently as 2004

9th July 2004 International Court of Justice the Court refers to the provisions of the Hague Regulation of 1907, which have become part of customary law, as well as the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 1949, applicable in those Palestinian territories which before the armed conflict of 1967 lay to the east of the 1949 Armistice demarcation line (or “Green Line”) and were occupied by Israel during that conflict

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3 Jun 1948 in the Knesset

Report to the Provisional Government of Israel by Prime Minister and Minister of Defence Ben-Gurion 3 Jun 1948
"The entire expanse of the State of Israel allocated to us under the terms of the UN resolution is in our hands, and we have conquered several important districts outside those boundaries".
and;
"To the greatest possible extent, we will remain constantly on the offensive, which will not be confined to the borders of the Jewish State".

12 Aug 1948

the Provisional Israeli Government proclaimed Jerusalem Declared Israel-Occupied City- by Israeli Government Proclamation 12 Aug 1948

Occupation can actually be dated from May 22nd 1948.

None of these areas have ever been legally annexed to Israel. See HERE for the possible legal repercussions of this situation and HERE for the possible ramifications for Israeli citizens.

HERE for up to date information on all illegal settlements from peacenow.org

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territory acquired by war by Israel and never legally annexed.  Israel has illegally acquired about 50% of the Palestinians rightful territories.
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8 Comments »

  1. hi talknic, thank you so very much. every time i visit your site i’m impressed and grateful.

    sincerely,

    annie

    Comment by annie — March 18, 2013 @ 7:19 am

    • Hi Annie,

      It’s a pleasure. The truth always remains intact, needing no justification or embellishment. It just needs the layers of bullsh*te dusting off so people can see it.

      Comment by talknic — March 18, 2013 @ 1:37 pm

    • Let me remind you that Arab countries rejected 29 November 1947 Partition Plan for Palestine (UN resolution 181) and from that point everything was left to the outcome of the war that the Arabs started immediately after that resolution voted. So you can roll yourself forth and back, you won’t change the simple facts. The Muslims still don’t accept Israel right to exist.

      Comment by israebest — June 17, 2013 @ 6:02 pm

      • See this!
        The Partition Resolution 181 was adopted on 29 November
        1947. The Palestinians opposed it and demanded that it’s legality
        be tested in the International Court of Justice founded in 1946, but
        this was never to happen. In early December 1947 ethnic cleansing
        began. On 10. March 1948 the Plan Dalet was adoptet which
        resulted in 250’000 Palestinians uprooted by the day of declaration
        of the State of Israel on May 14 1947. End of April 1948 the Arab
        League decided to intervene militarily. By the end of 1948 more than
        700’000 Palestinians were uprooted and more than 400 villages and
        towns were ethnically cleansed and destroyed.Ilan Pappe

        Comment by ruedi bosshart — December 14, 2013 @ 10:25 am

      • @ israebest “Let me remind you that Arab countries rejected 29 November 1947 Partition Plan for Palestine (UN resolution 181)”

        So what? They were not obliged to accept it. You’re spouting irrelevant arguments

        Let me remind you … Israel proclaimed its frontiers May 15th 1948 as “as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947 “ http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf What lay “outside of the State of Israel” .. “in Palestine”, according to the ISRAELI GOVT http://pages.citebite.com/x1r0b4d1y6mkv was not and is still not Israeli. It has never been legally annexed to Israel. It is illegal to acquire territory “by force whether this consists in the employment of arms, in threatening diplomatic representations, or in any other effective coercive measure “ http://pages.citebite.com/y1f0t4q1v4son

        ” and from that point everything was left to the outcome of the war that the Arabs started immediately after that resolution voted.”

        Jewish forces under Plan Dalet were already outside the territory slated for the Jewish state on the day Israel was declared. On Israel proclaiming its frontiers, the civil war in Palestine prior to Israel being declared, immediately became a war waged by the State of Israel in non-Israeli territories “outside the State of Israel”

        The Arab Regional Powers had a right and a duty to protect what remained of Palestine from foreign forces.
        There are no UNSC resolutions condemning an Arab state for invading or attacking Israel.
        According to the Israeli Govt the Arab states invaded “Palestine” http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/MFADocuments/Yearbook1/Pages/5%20Arab%20League%20declaration%20on%20the%20invasion%20of%20Pales.aspx NOT Israel.

        The UNSC resolutions on the Question of Palestine do not call for peace in Israel. Israel was never invaded.

        “The Muslims still don’t accept Israel right to exist”

        Irrelevant. It’s another stupid non-argument. There are numerous UN Member states who do not recognize each other. It ISN’T illegal to not recognize Israel or any other state. Israel exists despite not being accepted by certain Arab States . Israel is a UN Member State and the Occupying Power over non-Israeli territories and Israel is in breach of hundreds of UNSC resolutions because of its illegal actions in territories “outside the State of Israel” since 1948 and since 1967

        UNSC Resolution 476 is one of at least EIGHT reminders of UNSC Res 252 (1968) of 21 May 1968, 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969, 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971, 446 (1979) of 22 March 1979, 452 (1979) 20 July 1979, 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980, 476 June 30 1980 and 478 August 20 1980. None of which have anything to do with race or religion. They’re based on the UN Charter, International Law and the GC’s, all of which Israel obliged itself to uphold. It hasn’t.

        Comment by talknic — December 19, 2013 @ 7:55 pm

        • @israebest
          it’s my personal research based on ilan pappe’s book:
          The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

          http://palestine-studies.org/enakba/exodus/Pappe,%20The%20Ethnic%20Cleansing%20of%20Palestine.pdf

          http://free-palestine.ch/faq.php?lang=en

          Palestinians were told to flee by the Arab army’s? Another example of received wisdom which has no basis in matters of fact. “On 10 March 1948, (well before the declaration of independents of Israel , Plan Dalet (ethnic cleansing) was adopted. The first targets were the urban centres of Palestine, which had all been occupied by the end of April. About 250,000 Palestinians were uprooted in this phase, which was accompanied by several massacres, most notable of which was the Deir Yassin massacre. Aware of this developments, the Arab League took the decision, on the last day of April, to intervene militarily, but not until the British Mandate had come to an end. (15 March 1948)” [4] The complete number of uprooted Palestinians figures around 700.000. More than 400 towns and villages were destroyed and leveled. [5]

          http://free-palestine.ch/index.php?lang=en

          1947: The Partition Resolution 181 was adopted on 29 November
          1947. The Palestinians opposed it and demanded that it’s legality
          be tested in the International Court of Justice founded in 1946, but
          this was never to happen. In early December 1947 ethnic cleansing
          began.

          Comment by ruedi bosshart — December 19, 2013 @ 8:35 pm

  2. Hi Talknic,

    Is Hebron control of Israel? Do you know the legalities of it? What are the Human Rights Organizations say?

    Comment by Anonymous — June 17, 2012 @ 7:09 am


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