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September 7, 2010

No country in the world recognized Israel as the Jewish State.

Filed under: Israel & the Palestinians — Tags: , , , , , — talknic @ 2:03 pm

…It’s actually quite simple. If it isn’t the “acknowledged” Sovereign Territory of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel,
then it’s the territory of what remains of Palestine since Jordan and Israel declared their Sovereign Independence from Palestine in 1946 & 1948. Neither are a part of Palestine, nor is it a part of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Israel

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The US didn’t. The UK didn’t. In fact no state gave Israel recognition as the “Jewish state”. All the official recognitions given were to “the State of Israel” as per the Declaration of the “State of Israel”

Odd then, that Israel demands the Palestinians recognize Israel as the ‘Jewish State’. There is no precedent and no legal obligation for the demand. It’s pure BULLSH*TE on the part of Israel…again

This is what the Declaration of the STATE of Israel says “ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE’S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL. “

And so it was recognized

UNGA Res 181 recognized the RIGHT to have a Jewish State, post 1947. It did not recognize the state, because it did not at that time exist, nor was it’s purpose to recognize it once it did exist. It merely presented recommendations. Recommendations the Jewish Agency accepted.

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6 Comments »

  1. Well if you look past your nose, and read up on history, you will find that the land in question was actually Cannan and was taken off them by Moses and the Isralites, hence became Israel. Many of the old religions and their teachings talk of Moses and the 40 years in the wilderness, not just the Christian bible. In succeeding years it was routed by a number of invaders and parts were taken and called Syria and Jordan. As far back as 1823, Israel was recognised as a country when the Christmas Carol “The First Noel” was written. So in fact all the Jews want is their country back and to be left in peace, not a hard ask at all, in my opinion

    Comment by David — December 27, 2012 @ 12:27 am

    • “As far back as 1823, Israel was recognised as a country”

      Strange, the State of Israel was only proclaimed on May 14th 1948 as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947, and that a provisional government has been charged to assume the rights and duties of government for preserving law and order within the boundaries of Israel, for defending the state against external aggression, and for discharging the obligations of Israel to the other nations of the world in accordance with international law. The Act of Independence will become effective at one minute after six o’clock on the evening of 14 May 1948, Washington time.”

      Perhaps you can quote verbatim the recognition other countries gave Israel in 1823 … yes? If not, please don’t bother coming back

      Let’s look at this again ” As far back as 1823, Israel was recognised as a country when the Christmas Carol “The First Noel” was written. “

      A Christmas carol? I’m sorry Christmas carols don’t seem to feature in the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States 1934

      Never the less I’ll give you TOP BILLING in my next article, “The most incredible Idiotic, stupid & bizarre claims by supporters of Israel’s illegal activities”

      Furthermore what ever happened, was said, sung ( even “The First Noel” ) or promised prior to 00:01 May 15th 1948 Israeli time, is completely irrelevant to the legal status of Israel’s Internationally recognized sovereign extent today.

      “So in fact all the Jews want is their country back and to be left in peace, not a hard ask at all, in my opinion”

      A) “all the Jews want” I take it you’re not Jewish otherwise you’d have said ‘we’ B) We got our Jewish homeland state on May 15th 1948 at 00:01 am. What lay “outside the territory of the State of Israel” is quite simply not Israeli unless it has been legally annexed to Israel in the last 64 years, because it has been “inadmissible to acquire territory by war” since, at the very least, 1945 when the UN was established.

      Can you tell me on what date Israel has legally annexed any territory and on what date and by agreement with who?

      You do know the requirements for LEGAL annexation? Yes? E.g., As far back as 1854 the US legally annexed Texas by first holding a referendum of the legitimate Mexican citizens of Texas asking them if they wanted to be annexed to the US. Same for Alaska, a referendum of the Russian citizens of Alaska, same for Hawaii.

      Comment by talknic — December 27, 2012 @ 6:15 am

  2. The Declaration was made by Jews if you didn’t notice – thus the responsive recognitions by the United States, Britain, and the USSR were obviously to the Jews and for the Jews.

    Comment by Donald — November 2, 2011 @ 10:40 pm

    • Hi Donald…

      “The Declaration was made by Jews”

      Quite. In all our names, wherever we might live or hold citizenry or country we might be born into, whatever colour, whatever race.. We should all expect the Jewish State of Israel, declared in all our names, to at least live up to the word of the declaration. In particular“it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations. “

      “the responsive recognitions by the United States, Britain, and the USSR were obviously to the Jews and for the Jews”

      The official recognitions actually say “the State of Israel” NONE say the ‘Jewish State’ or ‘Jews’. It’s a hard fact Donald. You can look them up…..

      Comment by talknic — November 3, 2011 @ 12:18 pm


  3. God Bless Palestinians

    Comment by alex — September 23, 2010 @ 8:38 am


    • Hi Alex….

      I am not religious. If I was, I’d agree. :-) Indeed, they have endured in the face of everything those who seek a Greater Israel have done, they know no boundaries, there are no depths they will not sink to. Even kill their own (Rabin). I can only try to help people unravel the lies perpetuated by them and successive Israeli Governments over the last 62 years.

      Comment by talknic — September 23, 2010 @ 1:17 pm


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